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 Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 07:20 pm
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 I'm with yout. I think you are agreeing that the Miele, although more costly up front is the best bet overall?

Thanks
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 I had a GE PotScrubber from the early 1990 that cleaned so well. I really wish I had spent the money to repair that dishwasher. It was noisy, but I hardly never had a reject glass, or dish out of that dishwasher.

Due to unamious recommendations from Appliance repair people, Internet research, and some friends, I bought a KitchenAid (Model KUDR01TJBL0). This dishwasher was not cheap at $880 installed.

To be kind, it is mediocre at best when it comes to cleaning. Also, the reliability has been the lowest of any appliance I have ever owned. In the first year, I had three service vists, decided to extend the warranty (which was a good move), and had three other repairs visits the following year. I'll spare you the details on what has been replaced.

I like the idea of finding a used dishwasher. Perhaps there should be a list of 'workhorse' appliances as part of this great forum?

I know when my KitchenAid fails, I will try to find a used dishwasher of better quality, or go try a Bosch.

Take care,

Bill

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 When I used to service the Miele I found that it was the easiest to work on because you can pull it out of the hole and remove the side panels while running the unit (most of the time).  I was also talking with one the salesman that I used to work with recently and he said Miele are phasing out the built-in softeners on their d/ws.  Also Miele stand behind their product quite well and are usually willing to cover some out of warrany costs.  I had 2 or 3 motors go on a few models that were past the 5 year coverage period and Miele had covered all of them, (the average motor is $500 here in Canada).  The price is also comparable to other d/w at about $1300 to start.
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 Bosch dishwashers may be very quiet, but they are far from being reliable. They are also a pain in the neck to repair, even a simple job like replacing door springs, the dishwasher needs to be pulled from under the counter and flipped on it's back .  I would stick to Whirlpool.  Also, NONE of the foreign models are available in a portable model.



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 Posted: Sun May 6th, 2007 08:47 pm
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 kevm wrote: Hello,

We were loking at Bosch, best buy shu66c06uc best buy in consumer reports..... I am down to 34 inches clearence if I am lucky. I am wondering if this Bosch will fit at that point.

Can I ask if anyone has experience putting the Bosch into a tight enclosure, and if it worth the extra expense to go with the Miele (Optima Q3 or Excella Q4).
Installed a Bosch this week. Our store doesn't carry Bosch, but the guy was a long time customer so the owner special ordered it. When they say 34 inches, they mean it. Unlike a WP with the toe panel off, on the Bosch, you can't reach underneath the thing and feel/see the pump, motor, fill valve, etc. The base of the machine is a big piece of plastic running all the way under it with a channel in it for running the supply line up from the back of the enclosure. It has three levelers, two in front (on either side) and one in back (in the middle). Thankfully, the back leveler is remotely adjusted from the front with a flat blade screwdriver, so you can level it once its already pushed back all the way into the enclosure.

Note, the Bosch doesn't come in a cardboard box. It ships sitting on a big chunk of styrofoam reinforced with pine, then has four veritical chunks of foam at the corners, then on top is a carboard box with the accessories, then the whole thing is wrappend in plastic. I prefer having a box so I can have something to throw all the excess packing material in.

Here's the installation instructions for the model you are considering:

http://www.bshextranet.com/files/techtoolbox/SHX-V56-57Cii(en-fr-sp).pdf



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 just had to toss this hat into the ring- the fisher paykel dish drawers, so far have a good track record in these parts- very quiet, unique, and versatile as you can run one or both drawers as required. aside from the odd hiccup, most consumers seem extremely pleased with them. also available as a kitchenaid version.



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 Posted: Sun May 6th, 2007 10:28 pm
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 I beg to differ with you on the reliability of the Fisher & Paykel dishdrawers.  If you have tall dishes, forget about it.

I have seen them leak like crazy because customers are too rough with these machines. I think they are a pain in the neck to service and we will only sell these to customers after we have explained to them all the problems we have had with these in the past as well as warning customers you have to be very gentle with these machines.



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 Posted: Thu May 10th, 2007 05:44 pm
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 Hi,

Thanks to everyone for the responses and recommendations. We have purchased the Miele Optima. It is not installed yet, but obviously we hope that it is very quiet, that it cleans, and that it lasts a HE$$ of a long time..!!!

 

Take care
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