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 Posted: Thu Nov 18th, 2010 10:42 pm
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KA D/W dead, unresponsive
input voltage good
door switch checks fine
thermal fuse on board has continuity

Order and replace main control circuit board
upon power-up the heavy wash light flashes quickly and constantly - still unresponsive
figure i've also got a bad touch pad

order and replace control panel / touch pad assy.
upon power up the normal wash light flashes quickly and constantly - still unresponsive

I can switch the ribbons easily on the two control panels and get 2 different symptoms - i've never seen anything like this - how can the same failure manifest itself as 2 different fault codes on 2 identical parts?

Anybody out there real familiar w/this particular series?

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CHECKING KEYPAD OPERATION

A rapidly blinking LED over one of the keys of the keypad (or sometimes a “dead” keypad/console)
indicates one or more key switch lines are stuck or shorted on either the control or the keypad.
To determine which one, do the following test:

1. Unplug dishwasher or disconnect power.

2. Open console and disconnect the keypad ribbon connection from the control (at P1).
Put console back together.

3. Plug in dishwasher or reconnect power.

4. With door latched, disconnect and reconnect thermistor or OWI sensor two times in less than 6 seconds.

5. Wait 10 seconds, then monitor the control’s response to the thermistor:

➔If the control is OK (no longer sees shorts with the keypad unplugged),
it will respond by running service diagnostics.

Listen for it to begin filling after it concludes the 5–10 second display test
at the beginning of the service diagnostics cycle.

Check and/or replace the keypad if the control responds OK.


➔If the control is not OK (still sees shorts with the keypad unplugged),
then it will NOT respond to the thermistor at all and will remain off after 10 seconds go by.
 
Make sure the keypad is unplugged for this test.
Confirm that all other connections are made, the console and door are reassembled,
power is back on, and the door is latched;
then repeat steps 1-5 above. If still no response, replace the control.



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I saw this test on the tech sheet -- it's purpose is to determine which part ( board or touch pad ) is bad
i have already replaced both
like i said - with the new main control board in - i get a different fault code changing only the touch pad
do you have any experience with the OWI sensor?
i don't even know where it is (pump would make sense)
board bad from FSP? still wouldn't explain different codes on pads
panel assy bad from FSP? possible but the odds are against it
right now i figure i gotta re-order both parts (and maybe throw in a OWI sensor) suck it up and take the loss
could all be a moot point - considering that the cust will not have the D/W for thanxgiving, i could understand a cancellation
we may never find out the answer - which sux because this has already cost me - so i might as well learn something

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OWI (Optical Water Indicator)  ...  Soil Sensor

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REMOVING THE Optical WATER INDICATOR
1. Unplug dishwasher or disconnect power.
2. Remove the access panel and toe panel.
3. Disconnect the wire connector to the optical water indicator, or OWI,
by lifting the locking tab and removing the wire connector.
4. Turn the OWI 90 degrees counter clockwise and pull it out of the sump.


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have you ever done one?
if so, what are the symptoms like when it fails?
i understand you guys are all tied in to repair clinic but i have a warehouse - i can always return what i want - or at least pencil whip the part -
this is just one of those jobs ..........
the price of education -

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Hello, my symptomatic friend. Let me be the first to applaud your audacity at coming here to this forum seeking free advice, knowing that it is supported by parts sales through RepairClinic and even making a denigrating comment about it and announcing that you will source your parts elsewhere. Mujahideen warriors evincing such boldness are customarily awarded an erotic evening with the tribal chief's prize-winning yak. Due to our geographical separation, please permit me to award you an amorous evening with this virtual yak:



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Moostafa wrote: Hello, my symptomatic friend. Let me be the first to applaud your audacity at coming here to this forum seeking free advice, knowing that it is supported by parts sales through RepairClinic and even making a denigrating comment about it and announcing that you will source your parts elsewhere. Mujahideen warriors evincing such boldness are customarily awarded an erotic evening with the tribal chief's prize-winning yak. Due to our geographical separation, please permit me to award you an amorous evening with this virtual yak:







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