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Posted: Mon Nov 15th, 2010 12:29 am

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a couple weeks after replacing the back housing (more busted bearings) our cloths would be sopping wet after all cycles completed. seems it's never going to a fast spin at all. it does tumble, and the timer motor does its thing. With nothing in it will fast spin though, just not with clothes in it. Figured I left something unplugged, or loose, but nothing is hanging loose.

I went through the motor diags and everything seems OK except my cheap old radioshack digital meter says .5 Kohms instead of 3 MegOhms on pins 1-2-3 of the 6 pin. unless I'm reading my meter wrong, or my meter is faulty, this means I have a bad board right? is it even possible for it to fail in a way that it will tumble, and fast spin with no load, but not come up to speed with a load in it? Or would this me a motor problem instead?

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Posted: Mon Nov 15th, 2010 12:41 am

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chrwei wrote: .. With nothing in it will fast spin though, just not with clothes in it. ...

I'm not sure of that right now, but here's one simple test:

While it should be Spinning, unplug the Washer from the Wall Outlet.

Can you open the Door right away, or only after a few minutes ?

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Posted: Mon Nov 15th, 2010 12:59 am

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it takes a few minutes.

I did find another thread where you asked a question that seems relevant http://applianceguru.com/forum2/17372.html

you asked: Does yours: "...just moves back and forth. Like trying to balance the load."
his answer was no, but mine is yes.

also from that thread, mine has the original control board which is reported to have an electrical noise issue.

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Posted: Mon Nov 15th, 2010 01:04 am

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chrwei wrote: ... radioshack digital meter says .5 Kohms instead of 3 MegOhms on pins 1-2-3 of the 6 pin. ...

what scale are you using ?

try another scale ...

what R.S. Meter model number are you using ?

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Posted: Mon Nov 15th, 2010 01:08 am

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it's a 22-179A, auto-ranging.

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Posted: Mon Nov 15th, 2010 01:19 am

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can you set it to non-autoranging 4 MegOHM scale ?

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Posted: Mon Nov 15th, 2010 01:46 am

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I'll see if I can borrow a better meter. this sucker has on and off and that's about it.

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got one that has a 2M+ setting and it's reading 500-800 on the display and varying wildly on all 3 pin combos. This is with timer set to heavy wash. with everything unplugged, I get 1500 on pins 2-3 and nothing on 1-2 and 3-1.

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is this consistent with controller failure?

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Posted: Tue Nov 16th, 2010 03:27 am

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Speed control board==> http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDetail/Motor-Control-Unit/1206430?modelNumber=417.42042100

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the bad boards with noise issues will pass all diagnostic tests, at least sometimes

i have found the only real test when suspecting one of these boards is to change it(repair clinic will allow you to return part if not needed)

however, you say you just changed the bearings, so another suspect could be the timer, its possible to damage the timer when tilting the machine up/down

remove lid and inspect the bottom of the timer where the molex plug connects, make sure the plug is seated and the timer casing is not bent

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Posted: Tue Nov 23rd, 2010 12:21 am

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another case of the bad controller. new controller and it's working again. thanks guys

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