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Posted: Thu Nov 4th, 2010 05:58 pm

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I have a Kenmore 417.94152500 gas dryer, that was converted to propane, but I have now moved somewhere where I have to use Natural Gas. I can't find the part and didn't do the conversion myself. So my question is, is it just the orrifice? I found a place to order the orrifice, but is there anything else that needs changed? Isn't there a blocking pin or something? Is there a reconvert kit somewhere, or what parts will I need?

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Posted: Thu Nov 4th, 2010 06:43 pm

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You will need the N/G orifice and I think the blocking pin in the regulator is used for L/P (blocks it from regulating), if you unscrew the insert you can cut off the pin - some of them you can just pull the pin out or flip the cap

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Read this page backwards==> http://fixitnow.com/wp/2009/03/13/converting-a-gas-dryer-from-natural-gas-to-propane/ :gaptooth:

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So I can buy the orrifice, but they don't seem to sell the cap to replace the pin that is in there. Someone said I can just snip the pin. Is that safe?

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for whatever reason, the NG to LP conversion kit

has all of these (different ?) parts

including an Ignitor !

Frigidaire kit 134315100 $ 23

to convert back to NG, you may need these parts: ? ? ?

5303207410 Orifice, natural gas, size 44    $ 27

134192000 Igniter Assy (Blue Plug)    $ 82

134197700 Burner, gas   $ 19

134122000 Bracket, burner mtg    $ 26

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Available at RepairClinic==> http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDetail/LP-Conversion-Kit/1025949

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Posted: Fri Nov 5th, 2010 01:42 am

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Samurai Appliance Repair Man wrote: Available at RepairClinic ..
yes, but he's not looking to buy the NG to LP kit,

I was just posting a nice picture of what is included in that kit,

he wants to go from LP to NG and may need those other parts I listed or a different kit ...

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Posted: Fri Nov 5th, 2010 12:17 pm

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You don't need to change the burner or ignitor, just the orifice and replace the blocking pin with the vent cap.

When you change from Nat to LP you get a new stainless still burner scoop which will work fine when switched back to Nat. The original burner scoop isn't stainless steel and I believe it has something to do with corrosion, the non-stainless for some reason probably doesn't hold up well to LP gas?

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Cool. That is what I was woried about, whether I needed a new ignitor,, burner, and all that other stuff. Or if I could just do the orrifice and the blocking cap. Sounds like I should give that a try first, so I ordered the orrifice.

So the question still remains: Can I just pull the clocking pin from the LP conversion kit that is on there, snip it short/pull it off, and then put the cap back on? Will it work the same as the original NG blocking cap? or do I need to find a place that will sell it, because I can't find a place that does.

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Sorry, I mean "blocking cap". Can I just snip or remove the pin from the LP cap that is on there now? Or do I actually have to ge t a NG venting cap? I can't find anywhere that sells one. I can't be the first person that has lost their parts in a move, so it is kind of funny that they don't make a reconvert kit.

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I don't know if it's a match but I just converted a Kenmore/Whirlpool gas dryer from LP to natural gas and used orifice #234826 and limiter/"blocking cap" #694424. The limiter/blocking cap on a natural gas valve only caps off the hole.

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The vent limiter cap for NAT. gas, (No blocking pin), actually has a very small vent hole which I don't know if the LP blocking pin cap has the vent hole or not, (it does, I just remembered I had a LP blocking pin cap and checked it out before finishing this post).

I believe the vent needs to be there for the regulator to work correctly, so clipping the blocking pin off the LP cap should take care of it and work totally fine. You will just have to find another LP blocking pin cap if you ever want to go back to LP gas.

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Posted: Tue Nov 9th, 2010 06:35 am

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I just realized there is a big red sticker that says "This control manifold has been converted for use with LP gas at a rate of 20,000 BTU/HR and a pressure of 11" W.C."

I am just wondering: is this just the stock sticker to indicate the orifice and limite cap/venting cap have been changed? Or is tehre something else, like anew valve or something? I just don't want to blow anything up. I am pretty sure this sticker is just talking about the orifice and the limiter cap.

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Posted: Tue Nov 9th, 2010 11:52 am

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calcorn wrote: ... there is a big red sticker that says "This control manifold has been converted for use with LP gas at a rate of 20,000 BTU/HR and a pressure of 11" W.C."

included with the LP conversion kit (see picture)

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