- Home


Air Conditioners | Dehumidifiers | Dishwashers | Disposals | Dryers | Freezers | Humidifiers | Ice Makers | Microwave Ovens | Ovens, Ranges, Stoves | Refrigerators | Trash Compactors | Washers | Water Filters

FAQs | Contact | Apprenticeship | Parts | Model Number Help | Newsletter | Beer
- > Do-It-Yourself Appliance Repair Help > The Kitchen Appliance Repair Forum > KGCT365EAL0 (KitchenAid Gas Cooktop): Regulator Blowing Gas!

Find Appliance Parts & Diagrams Here
Enter a model number, part number, type of appliance, brand, or even a part description.

365-day return policy on all parts ordered through this site!


 Moderated by: BrntToast, RegUS_PatOff, appl.tech.29501 Search Our Sites for More Info!
New Topic Reply Printer Friendly
KGCT365EAL0 (KitchenAid Gas Cooktop): Regulator Blowing Gas!  Rating:  Rating
AuthorPost
 Posted: Fri Dec 18th, 2009 08:43 pm
  PM Quote Reply
1st Post
kludge
Grasshopper
 

Joined: Tue Dec 15th, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 9
Flavorite Brew: the bitterest ipa
Status: 
Offline
So, as noted in this thread, I'm trying to make a 1996 KitchenAid Sealed Burner Glass Cooktop run off a 20 pound Liquid Propane tank.  It's going to go in the garage as a backup/utility/brewing/soap-making/etc. range.  Please note I'm a total amateur, just trying to follow directions and improvise intelligently where necessary.

So far I've
  1. Flipped the regulator cap so that "LP" is showing.
  2. Replaced the orifices with the contents of "L.P. Conversion Kit No. 4173627" according to the provided instruction sheet.
  3. Plumbed the 20# tank to the stove with a Char-Broil 4' Hose and Adapter (model 4623).
    • The stove end of the hose and adapter had a schrader valve meant to be depressed by the connected appliance's regulator.  I removed this.
  4. Replaced a faulty burner valve ($80... ouch).
Seemed to me everything ought to "just work" at that point.  But when I connect the tank and open the tank valve, propane comes rushing out from under the brass plate on the regulator.

If I turn any of the burner valves on, gas comes out of the burner orifice, as it ought to, but it also starts pouring out of the burner valve.

The conversion kit manual says the inlet pressure to the regulator is:

Manifold or Set Pressure 10" W.C.
Maximum Inlet Pressuer 14" W.C.

According to the chart on this page, my tank if full would be putting out 93 psi.  According to the converter here, that's approximately 2,574 W.C.

Obviously, I need to regulate that pressure *way* *way* down.  I'm guessing that means I need another regulator somewhere in the line.  My question for all y'all gurus is:

What kind of regulator?  Even links to good reading would be a huge help.  Many, many thanks.

-kludge

Back To Top PM Quote Reply  

 Posted: Fri Dec 18th, 2009 08:57 pm
  PM Quote Reply
2nd Post
KurtiusInterupptus

 

Joined: Fri Jan 12th, 2007
Location: Hickory, North Carolina USA
Posts: 459
Flavorite Brew: Bud and free
Status: 
Offline
hello again kludge!

the char-broil 4"hose and adapter you are attempting to use, does it have a grill tank regulator as part of its assembly?

if not , here is yer problem. a grill tank MUST have a regulator to step the pressure down to the use-able 11-14" wc required by any gas appliance. any hardware or home supply should have regulator that will work .


and where exactly is this gas leaking from when you hit it with the 93psi?

Last edited on Fri Dec 18th, 2009 08:58 pm by KurtiusInterupptus



____________________
As every cockroach knows , thriving on poisons is the secret of success.
Back To Top PM Quote Reply

 Posted: Fri Dec 18th, 2009 09:33 pm
  PM Quote Reply
3rd Post
kludge
Grasshopper
 

Joined: Tue Dec 15th, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 9
Flavorite Brew: the bitterest ipa
Status: 
Offline
I think I answered my own question, but I'll post my discovery here for comment.

Something like part number F273767 from The Heater Shop?

(I'm sure there are other suppliers... the link is for illustrative purposes.)

-kludge

Last edited on Fri Dec 18th, 2009 09:42 pm by kludge

Back To Top PM Quote Reply  

 Posted: Fri Dec 18th, 2009 09:48 pm
  PM Quote Reply
4th Post
kludge
Grasshopper
 

Joined: Tue Dec 15th, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 9
Flavorite Brew: the bitterest ipa
Status: 
Offline
@kurtiusInterruptus:

sorry if i wasn't specific enough about the leaks in my first post.

the regulator on the cooktop is mostly cast aluminum, but it has a brass plate on the bottom side.  gas comes out from under the edges of that plate.

it also comes out the burner valves themselves when they're set to anything but the highest setting.  don't know exactly where on the valves, seems to be around where the "stem" that the knob will eventually go on meets the machined body.

here's my most pressing question: have i fubar'd the components by running that much pressure through them?  i can get the regulator i need for a just another $20 and a long-ish bike ride, but will i have to rebuild the whole cooktop?  'cuz that's *way* out of my budget for this project.

thanks for the reply!

-kludge

Back To Top PM Quote Reply

 Posted: Fri Dec 18th, 2009 10:32 pm
  PM Quote Reply
5th Post
KurtiusInterupptus

 

Joined: Fri Jan 12th, 2007
Location: Hickory, North Carolina USA
Posts: 459
Flavorite Brew: Bud and free
Status: 
Offline
yeah you prolly killed that appliance regulator...as for the valves... no way to tell till you get that tank pressure stepped down.

also , i would go with something like the

f273761 if you plan on using this puppy on a grill tank all the time-simply for ease of operation when changing tanks (no wrench req.)



____________________
As every cockroach knows , thriving on poisons is the secret of success.
Back To Top PM Quote Reply  

 Posted: Thu Dec 24th, 2009 07:34 pm
  PM Quote Reply
6th Post
kludge
Grasshopper
 

Joined: Tue Dec 15th, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 9
Flavorite Brew: the bitterest ipa
Status: 
Offline
UPDATE:

done and done. sure seems like everything works, even the appliance regulator.

i get flames on all four burners, and they all seem about the right height.

thanks for all the help!

Back To Top PM Quote Reply

 Posted: Thu Dec 24th, 2009 10:29 pm
  PM Quote Reply
7th Post
KurtiusInterupptus

 

Joined: Fri Jan 12th, 2007
Location: Hickory, North Carolina USA
Posts: 459
Flavorite Brew: Bud and free
Status: 
Offline
congrats and merry Christmas and happy festivus!



____________________
As every cockroach knows , thriving on poisons is the secret of success.
Back To Top PM Quote Reply  

Current time is 11:38 am Tell a friend about this page... all your other friends are doing it!  
- > Do-It-Yourself Appliance Repair Help > The Kitchen Appliance Repair Forum > KGCT365EAL0 (KitchenAid Gas Cooktop): Regulator Blowing Gas! Top



Find Appliance Parts & Diagrams Here
Enter a model number, part number, type of appliance, brand, or even a part description.

365-day return policy on all parts ordered through this site!

FAQs | Contact | Apprenticeship | Parts | Model Number Help | Newsletter | Beer

Your Sometimes-Lucid Host:
- Home
"If I can't help you fix your appliance and make you 100% satisfied, I will come to your home and slice open my belly, spilling my steaming entrails onto your floor."


UltraBB 1.17 Copyright © 2007-2008 Data 1 Systems
Page processed in 0.1036 seconds (18% database + 82% PHP). 26 queries executed.

Web Analytics