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 That compressor should work adequately, but still requires the proper refrigerant charge, he just decided to use a high start tourque compressor (thus the start cap) for whatever reason.



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 Let's see the pictures...

I'll bet it's under-charged.

Did you verify that the condenser fan is running?

Is the back cover in place?

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 If it's still available, we have beat the whole 3-in-1 compressor start device topic to death. I, and most others, are dead set against using them.

I prefer to use a Dial-A-Charge device to measure the refrigerant into the unit. Very Accurate.

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 The correct OEM compressor should come with a filter/dryer that has an access valve built in. That valve he installed is not proper to leave in a system. I'll bet he didn't replace the dryer



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 I talked to Embraco tech support. They stated that replacement compressor is correct replacement part for the original but is not as efficient and it is about 50-60btu lower so it will run more. However, if it runs too much there is some other problem. He stated that dust in back is very important to clean and that filter dryer should be replaced as it could cause compressor problems.

So basically I have an inferior compressor. The original part is only sold to Whirlpool.
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 kdog wrote: That compressor should work adequately, but still requires the proper refrigerant charge



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 it looks like the drier was replaced. its a direct embraco compressor rather than the whirlpool one so it either didn't come with a drier or it came with the one that he installed without the valve. I really hope he used a vacuum pump on the system because there is no way he did a sweep charge. i agree that compressor should work but its definitely made for a different application.



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 I'm sure that the charge will have to be adjusted a bit from the factory charge to compensate for the BTU difference.



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 Would you be comfortable trying to charge it by yourself?

hit up the auto parts store and see if you can find the proper adapters to connect a small can of 134a to your fridge. connect an amp meter to the compressor and charge slowly until you get to 1.9 amps and you should be golden. with the semi hack job done here i would recommend charging it yourself and letting it go until it dies then replace the fridge. You will probably have a hard time finding someone willing to clean up this mess.



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 denrayr wrote: Would you be comfortable trying to charge it by yourself?

hit up the auto parts store and see if you can find the proper adapters to connect a small can of 134a to your fridge. connect an amp meter to the compressor and charge slowly until you get to 1.9 amps and you should be golden. with the semi hack job done here i would recommend charging it yourself and letting it go until it dies then replace the fridge. You will probably have a hard time finding someone willing to clean up this mess.

The original Whirpool compressor was a Embraco, but Embraco rep said they only sell to Whirlpool, not in aftermarket.  Probably has to do with cost because the original is a high efficieny and aftermarket is for low cost.  The guy who did the job had a vacuum but it looked ancient. 

Where did you come up with 1.9amps?  Is that number independent of the compressor size, refrigerator size?  The whole reason for repairing the fridge was because it was nice quiet, super-efficient fridge.  Oh, the irony.  

 
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 i checked the wattage on the spec sheet you posted, divided by 120, and came up with 1.9 amps. 1.9 amps is what i look for on the whirlpool side by sides without a run cap so this compressor is right in line with that. It really wont use much more power than your old one and this compressor looks like a more robust one anyway.



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 denrayr wrote: i checked the wattage on the spec sheet you posted, divided by 120, and came up with 1.9 amps. 1.9 amps is what i look for on the whirlpool side by sides without a run cap so this compressor is right in line with that. It really wont use much more power than your old one and this compressor looks like a more robust one anyway.

Duh, power and current.  I'll try to get someone out to check.  Now I'm knowledgeable enough to ask right questions. Thanks to everyone for help.  I will hopefully post soon with good news and you guys can go onto to tougher challenges.   
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