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| Posted: Mon Mar 10th, 2008 11:13 pm |
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hobokenapp Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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I have a new question about this model of washer. Mine has worked without a problem for at least a year, and probably for the three years it's been in commission. Now it washes fine, but when it goes into the spin cycle with any load, it makes a thunderous vibrating noise. I tried rotating the empty drum manually and there was no problem. My super opened the bottom panel and ran it to triage it and said that the 'legs' are fine, and that he thought that it might have a problem with the front guide. He didn't sound optimistic, however, and I'm giving it until tomorrow before I call a professional. So I have two questions: 1) Is there any more information I can get before calling a repairman? 2) What's the best estimate of my probability of having to replace this? Thanks.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10th, 2008 11:19 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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you could check the condition of the "spider" # 26 page 6 of this manual: GLTF1040AS0 Parts Manual and the counter-weight #23 is in place. Last edited on Mon Mar 10th, 2008 11:28 pm by RegUS_PatOff ____________________ The new repair forums==> http://appliantology.org RegUS_PatOff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAY2LsKVEw my video production: “Easter Seals Walk With Me” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EBiLyYXMiA |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10th, 2008 11:26 pm |
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hobokenapp Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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That's in back of the drum, obviously. I'm assuming that it's accessible from the back of the washer, if I could access the back of the washer.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 10th, 2008 11:34 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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and the spider on the back of the drum as posted here: asteysn2 wrote: IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH THE "SPIDER" BRACKET HAS BROKEN, AND IF IT HAS, FRIGIDAIRE WARRANTIES THEM FOR 25 YEARS. HOWEVER, IF THIS IS A "SEARS" OR A "KENMORE" PRODUCT, OR AS I ASSUME WAS PURCHASED AT SEARS, FRIGIDAIRE'S WARRANTY MY HAVE NO AFFECT ON YOUR MACHINE. Budget Appliance Repair wrote: I fear from your description you have a major problem. Last edited on Mon Mar 10th, 2008 11:42 pm by RegUS_PatOff ____________________ The new repair forums==> http://appliantology.org RegUS_PatOff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAY2LsKVEw my video production: “Easter Seals Walk With Me” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EBiLyYXMiA |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 11:20 am |
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hobokenapp Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Any chance that this is just the belt?
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 12:18 pm |
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jambatt Scholar of Advanced Appliantological Studies 
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Grab the inner tub and see if it will move up and down or side to side. If it does, you have a broken spider.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 02:49 pm |
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hobokenapp Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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I can pull it forard so that it hits the front of the machine. maybe 2" displaced at the top of the drum - and push it back so that is hits something at the back, also maybe 2" of displacement. It's rotating around a point in back of the drum, on the axis. There's no side to side movement. Does it still sound like a broken spider? If so, I'm looking at $60 for parts and $ a lot for labor, right? Edit: I've tried this on a different machine in the building, one with an undamaged spider, and the range of motion was the same. So I'm discounting a broken spider. I'm going to be able to open the back up this afternoon, so I'll post again. Last edited on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 03:48 pm by hobokenapp |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 07:00 pm |
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hobokenapp Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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I opened it up. The spider's fine, and the shocks and springs look fine. The concrete counter-weight is in place. Next guess is that the drive belt is slipping at high speeds, though it doesn't seem slack. Anything else I should be looking at?
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 09:57 pm |
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hvacdrd Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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Just to clarify what and where the potential broken spider arm is...when you pull on the inner tub(the stainless steel part) there should be no movement front to back in relation to the outer tub. Try moving it more like you are pulling on the inside drum and watch the space in front. The assembly as a whole unit will move the 2" as you described. Take a close look at the space in front to see if the inner drum is centered in relation to the outer tub. Usually some signs of plastic shredding appears at the front.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 10:02 pm |
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hobokenapp Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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The spider is the five spoked wheel, part 26 in the exploded diagram of the drum assembly in the manual in the second post in the thread, right? If I'm referring to the right part, it's not damaged in any way. Last edited on Tue Mar 11th, 2008 10:40 pm by hobokenapp |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 11th, 2008 11:09 pm |
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hvacdrd Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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No - the spider is located on the back of the inner tub, you cannot see it without a complete teardown. This is what it looks like on the inside... Attachment: inner basket.GIF (Downloaded 126 times)
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 12:01 am |
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hobokenapp Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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hvacdrd wrote: No - the spider is located on the back of the inner tub, you cannot see it without a complete teardown. This is what it looks like on the inside... And a broken spider would be consistent with thumping at high speeds / high load (for instance, two towels at the fast spin, full load at normal spin)? If yes, then I think that I'm beyond my skill and the super's skill. Next step: call Sear's, or call a Frigidaire-authorized rep? The first seems like I'm going to get bad service, and the second sounds expensive. I'm a first-time shopper, so I'd appreciate advice.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 12:07 am |
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hvacdrd Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Are you seeing any plastic shavings near the front where the inner & outer tub are close? Is it vibrating when you run it in spin empty? As for who to call I would start with a Frigidaire long before Sears.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 12:09 am |
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hobokenapp Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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hvacdrd wrote: Are you seeing any plastic shavings near the front where the inner & outer tub are close? Is it vibrating when you run it in spin empty? Thanks for the quick feedback. It doesn't vibrate during the wash, or in spin when empty. I closed it up again, to save my nosy 11-month old, so I can't see the outer tub any more.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 12:17 am |
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hvacdrd Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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The only other advice I can give is to check the shocks, if they break the tub becomes unstable in spin. Here is what they look like and you should be able to see them by removing the lower front cover only. The older ones were white plastic and more rounded in the center. click on picture
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 12:29 am |
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hobokenapp Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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How would I know that they're broken?
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 12:31 am |
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hvacdrd Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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They mount from the cabinet base to the bottom of the tub on a slight angle. If they are hanging loose, broken in the middle or where they attatch - you'll know.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 12th, 2008 12:54 am |
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certified tech group 51 Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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Grab the spin basket and see if the basket move front to rear. The nut may have backed off a little to cause the pulley to wobble on the shaft flats . If this keeps going ,it wears out the pulley and then the belt will just fall off. I have changed apx. 10 of these f/l under warranty work very time consuming, 3 to 4 hours depending on space to work around unit. Job list price repair , parts and labor apx. $450. [New rear half[
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