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 Posted: Tue Jan 23rd, 2007 02:46 am
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My kenmore front load doesn't spin at all no matter what I do.  It takes water in and pumps it out but nothing else.  However, the timer still advances.

I noticed a similar posting as a mere grasshopper.  I followed the suggestion given in that posting which was to go through the trouble shooting procedure located in the brown envelop inside the unit.  The procedure verified that power was getting to the speed control unit and performed some resistance checks on the speed control board and the motor.  The only part of the procedure that failed is the one that tested the resistance of the speed control board.  The procedure said that if the resistance was anything other than 3Mohms +/-7%, the speed control board should be replaced.  I measured about 200Kohms and figured that must have been the problem and ordered a new unit from a local guy.  However, the new unit didn't work either.  I went through the procedure again with the new unit.  It all checked out with the exception of the resistance check of the speed control board.  The new unit reads 5.5Mohms which is also out of tolerance.  Does this mean the new unit was bad? :X

One other thing I noticed is that the original speed control unit seemed to "try" to make the motor spin.  The motor shaft moved a very little bit and made a noise for a few seconds and then stopped.  The new unit didn't do anything at all.

Also, the old speed control unit was made by Sole and was part number 221870020.  The replacement part number is made by SanKen sold by Electrolux and is part number 221870060.  Both units claim to drive motor type 205850000.  Is it possible that I was sold the wrong replacement part?

Any help will be much appreciated.

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You rang?

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Speed controller part number listed is 134058400 replaced by 134306000. Make sure you have the correct part.

Did you complete the motor winding and tacogenerator tests?

BTW - stay with one post, simply adding to your original post will get someones attention - keeping in mind we all have real jobs that pay the bills.

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The original unit is indeed part number 134058400 however the new unit is part number 134733600.  The local guy claimed that this was a valid, less expensive unit.   All the connections hooked up properly (doesn't mean much I know).  Can you verify that this is the wrong part so that I can have some sort of proof to take the guy in hopes of getting my money back?  I wish now I had gotten the part from the repair clinic.

I did perform the motor winding tests.  I got about 3 ohms on all the motor leads.  I didn't see a tachometer test in the document.  However, I have 180 ohms across the tach.  Does that help?  If you can direct me with another tach test I will be glad to try it.  However, I feel pretty sure at this point the problem is still the speed control board and that I was sold the wrong unit.

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Tacometer - ohm out the two terminals, specs are 187 Ohms +/- 7% so it looks like yours is ok. That is the only test I am aware of for it.

No luck on crossing 134733600. Does not show up as a valid number at ServallCo, Sundberg, Sears nor RepairClinic. Sounds suspicious to me as well.



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Thanks for the information regarding the 134733600 part number.  When I spoke with a sales rep at the RepairClinic concerning the number it couldn't be found.  Is there such a thing as counterfeit speed control boards?

At any rate, I ordered a new unit from the RepairClinic yesterday which should arrive today.  I hope to install the unit tonight.  I'll be sure to post the results.  I sure hope this fixes my washing machine.  The clothes are starting to pile up!

Thanks again for your help!!!!

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:D Well, it's all said and done now!!!  I got the CORRECT replacement part today from the RepairClinic, installed it, and it worked!!!!!:D

I wish I had listened to the Samurai and purchased the replacement parts from the RepairClinic in the first place.  The cost was close to the same, but I got in a hurry and bought on locally. 

The interesting thing was that the both parts were packaged in the same box with the same numbers on the outside of the box.  However, the box from the local guy had a different number than the one from the RepairClinic.:yikes:

:DThanks so much for all your help!!!!:D

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