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Maytag Performa Washer Tub VERY loose.  Rating:  Rating
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 Posted: Tue Jan 16th, 2007 07:34 pm
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Hi gang. We have a Maytag Performa top loader washing machine who's "tub" has been getting looser and looser. I believe it is supposed to be pretty firm, but ours just rocks side to side with the push of a finger. When doing a load now, it shakes the machine violently during the spin cycle {BANG BANG BANG BANG].

Is there a bolt underneath the machine that is loose or something? We've only had the machine for 2 years now, seems this shouldn't be happening on such a recently purchased machine. Maytag wanted $120 just to make an appointment to send a guy out, so hopefully it's a pretty easy fix.

Thanks!

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Remove the front panel (1. release the clips holding down the top using a putty knife or the likes, 2. Remove the two screws at the top of the front panel) Look at the base of the machine and see if there is any oil on it. If the tub moves as freely as you state, that would be my first guess. If oil is prevalent, you need a new transmission. The tranny is covered on your particular model for five years (assuming you didn't buy it "as-is no warranty")  Go ahead and fork over the 120 smackers. However if the oil is not there, post back with what you do find and we'll go from there.



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Could be as Stumpowitz says, if the lower tranmission seal has failed and oiled down the snubber area.

But the more likely cause is just a worn out plastic snubber ring, very common in these with what they are using for a snubber ring now, I've seen these wear out in less then 2years on machines with real high usuage.

Take the front off as directed and if you see no oil but do see all kinds of white powdery shavings around the bottom of the base in the snubber are, (under the milkstool), then you have a bad snubber.



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Hi gang, thanks for the quick replies. I popped the door off and took some photos and a movie to show the amount of movement in all directions that the tub can move. Looks like my video is a little too big to upload, but hopefully the pics will work ok.

There wasn't any oil visible in the area, but there was some of the white "powder" there. Is the snubber fairly easy to replace on my own (I'm pretty mechanically inclined).

Basically, should the tub be hard to move? It looks to be only centered using springs, which makes me think this type of movement is normal??? It just takes some pretty intense sorting to get the load balanced enough where it won't bang, way more than any other washer.

Thanks again!

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What you see there are the snubber ring shavings, there is a small raised bead around the ring and when it wears away it allows the milkstool to drop down about an extra 1/4" which makes the spring tension way to weak to keep any type of load balanced without the machine beating itself to death or trying to walk out of the house.

Not a real hard job but you do have to take the machine all apart.

When I do this job, I remove all the motor wiring and pull the drain hose back into the cabinet and remove the complete outer cabinet.

Then to remove the springs I use metal electric outlet boxes, (6 of them, one for each spring), wedge a box into each spring so they will stay stretched when you remove them. Then gently pull the tub towards each spring as you carefully remove it being carefull not to pull the boxes out of the springs. When you reinstall each spring make sure you get the spring hook in the base plate back up thru the holes and lean the tub towards each spring as you reinstall each one.

Once the wash tub and milkstool assembly is out, turn it upside down on two 4x4's so it sits nice and sturdy to work on.

Now this is where you need to be very carefull. The brake stator that holds the snubber ring in place is held on by 6 5/16" bolts and that brake is under like 200pounds of pressure. Carefully back out each screw just a couple of turns, (you will need to back them all out about halfway, just go slow and even and make sure none come all the way out), until you can wiggle the snubber ring out from under the stator and reinstall the new one, tighten the six bolts back down.

Clean the snubber ring surface and the base plate real good with rubbing alcohol and then sprinkle some corn starch on the base plate where the snubber ring rides and put it all back together.

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Awesome! I just ordered the part and will tackle the job as soon as it gets in. Thanks for the advice! I'll get back to the forum if I have any troubles. :-)

Dave

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Ok, I got the snubber in the mail and am ready to tackle the job. I pulled the washer out to work on it and pulled the front cover off again. Upon closer inspection, the white "Stuff" that was all around the bottom was actually styrofoam bits. I guess the the tub was rubbing up against the two styrofoam pads glued to each side wall.

Also, to be sure, do the sides, back, and top hatch all come off in one piece after removing the torque screws from the bottom (and bolts on the back)? Third, it seems MOST of the electric wiring has quick disconnect clips right near the hinge of the hatch, except one bundle. How are these disconnected?

Scratch that... after snooping a bit, looks like just disconnecting the motor clip will do the trick.

Lastly, all the springs are off now, electric disconnected, ready to remove the tub and motor. Here's the thing... do I remove the belt from under the washer first and remove the assembly from the bottom frame? The above description doesn't mention that. Or do I flip the frame upside down with the tub and motor? Sorry to be so obtuse, I just want to make sure I don't have to slap my forehead later. :-)

Dave

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Success!!! Wasn't too bad at all! Boy does it run like new. Too bad the replacement part was identical, I guess I can plan on taking the machine apart every 2 years. :-). I just wanted to say thank you to those of you who helped me here... what a great board this is!

Dave

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Great instructions on replacing the snubber ring w/o disrupting the brake assembly!

So w/ a $5 part and a few hours of unbolting and rebolting, fixed the washer easily (as well as giving the whole thing a thorough cleaning while I  had it apart).

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do you have more details regarding the "metal electric outlet boxes" you use on the springs?

The springs are always a pain!!!



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here's some more info:

read the 7th and 10th post of this thread

http://applianceguru.com/forum2/18977.html

 



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