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| Posted: Sun Jan 14th, 2007 04:44 am |
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laboy Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Thermador double oven F34/F39 error code on display. Any ideas?
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14th, 2007 05:05 am |
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AccApp Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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Model number please. F34 = "Ha Ha" F39 = "You paid too much" Seriously, if you call Bosch/Thermador with the model they can help you with the error codes. Have you looked behind the control panel for a tech sheet?
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15th, 2007 05:02 am |
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laboy Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Model Number C272BS. Thank you!
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15th, 2007 02:43 pm |
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AccApp Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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I have also seen the cooling fan(s) get clogged with dust and become unable to move enough air to actuate the sail switches. Big annoying job to pull that beast out to check.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16th, 2007 02:09 am |
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laboy Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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I spoke with Thermador tech. support: air switch, connectors, loose connection on board.. To pull out oven I use special dolly. Thank you guys!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16th, 2007 02:12 pm |
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AccApp Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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So you are a real tech! All hail Warren Brown! Savior of all who work on double ovens. Still a pain in the butt, especially if the electrician was an idiot and put the box in the basement below and wired it in with no room to move it out or if the cabinet guy put in a bunch of loose shims cause he couldn't build a level floor.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 16th, 2007 09:47 pm |
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paulh wrote: Don't know how you do cams on a 511,611,550,650 but I use the All-Dolly with a vise arrangment to support the door. One man operation. Sounds very smart. My knee seems to be at just the right height to support the door. I'll try that method next time.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 21st, 2007 05:13 am |
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I hope this helps this needs to be a sticky this covers all THERMADOR COOKING PRODUCTS Thermador HOW TO INTERPRET CODES When a fault occurs, the control will flash the blue oven “on light” and the Blue “heating light” sequentially to indicate the fault. The fault codes have two numbers, these numbers are interpreted by the number of times the lights flash. The oven “on light” will flash indicating the first number, and the “heating light” will flash indicating the second number. EXAMPLE: Error E9 is…. No Cooling Fans. The code is 43. The oven “on light” will flash four times, then the “heating light” will flash three times, then pause. The sequence will then repeat as long as the fault is present. EMERSON APPLIANCE CONTROLS DOCUMENT: 92S21720100 DIVISION OF EMERSON ELECTRIC CO. REVISION:B Product Specification for Sago Oven Control PAGE: 13. DIAGNOSTIC CODES DeBounce is the Rate at which the error checking occurs13.1 Diagnostic Code Checking The following chart describes the Fault code structure for the Control. Alarm fault monitor is always active. Any oven cancel key will reset the display to TOD idle. CODE DESCRIPTION WHEN CHECKED DEBOUNCE ERROR MESSAGE DISPLAYED ACTION TAKEN BY CONTROL F13 Upper oven RTD not calibrated Always 10 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F14 Display board EEPROM error Oven Programming 5 tries Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F19 Power board Communication error Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F23 Keyboard gain unstable Keyboard scratches Loose molex or pins, air pocket in control Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F24 Keyboard disconnected Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F25 Keys stuck Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F26 Keys moving/dropping out Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F30 Upper oven sensor shorted Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F31 Upper oven sensor open Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F32 Upper oven over temperature while cleaning Cleaning 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F33 Upper oven over temperature while Non-Clean 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking cooking/timing functions F34 Upper oven cooling fan over-speed or under-speed detected Cooking 1 minute Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F40 Upper oven meat probe shorted Cooking 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F41 Upper oven meat probe not calibrated Always 10 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F43 Lower oven RTD not calibrated Always 10 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F50 Upper oven door latch signal shorted low Always 1 minute Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F51 Upper oven door latch stuck unlocked Cooking/ Cleaning 1 minute Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F52 Upper oven door position error Cooking/ Cleaning 1 minute Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F53 Upper oven door latch stuck locked Non-Clean 1 minute Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F54 Upper oven latch input shorted Cleaning 1 minute Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F60 Lower oven sensor shorted Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F61 Lower oven sensor open Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F62 Lower oven over temperature while cleaning Cleaning 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F63 Lover oven over temperature while cooking Non-Clean 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F64 Lower oven cooling fan over-speed or under-speed detected Cooking 1 minute Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F70 Lover oven meat probe shorted Cooking 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions EMERSON APPLIANCE CONTROLS DOCUMENT: 92S21720100 DIVISION OF EMERSON ELECTRIC CO. REVISION:B Product Specification for Sago Oven Control PAGE: 13. DIAGNOSTIC CODES DeBounce is the Rate at which the error checking occurs 13.1 Diagnostic Code Checking The following chart describes the Fault code structure for the Control. Alarm fault monitor is always active. Any oven cancel key will reset the display to TOD idle. CODE DESCRIPTION WHEN CHECKED DEBOUNCE ERROR MESSAGE DISPLAYED ACTION TAKEN BY CONTROL F13 Upper oven RTD not calibrated Always 10 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F14 Display board EEPROM error Oven Programming 5 tries Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F19 Power board Communication error Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F23 Keyboard gain unstable Keyboard scratches Loose molex or pins, air pocket in control Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F24 Keyboard disconnected Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F25 Keys stuck Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F26 Keys moving/dropping out Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F30 Upper oven sensor shorted Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F31 Upper oven sensor open Always 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F32 Upper oven over temperature while cleaning Cleaning 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel cooking/timing functions F33 Upper oven over temperature while Non-Clean 20 seconds Message 1 Cancel
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| Posted: Sun Jan 21st, 2007 12:25 pm |
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That's awesome, Jahjah, mucho domo's for posting that! 
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| Posted: Sun Jan 21st, 2007 09:18 pm |
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paulh wrote: All that and it's for the wrong model # THE CODES cover all thermador ovens even the proranges I am a service engineer for bosch a/k/a bsh
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22nd, 2007 12:24 am |
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paulh wrote: Now I know why they are in so much trouble and this explains why I quit doing their warranty work after 14 years. Please tell all of us how your "sticky"( I like that name) applies to, Oh lets take a CT or CMT(E codes only) or maybe an older ESC. Drink some more of that green tea but try the decaffinated kind. IS THIS more to your liking All Error Codes.pdf
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| Posted: Mon Jan 22nd, 2007 12:29 am |
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paulh wrote: Now I know why they are in so much trouble and this explains why I quit doing their warranty work after 14 years. Please tell all of us how your "sticky"( I like that name) applies to, Oh lets take a CT or CMT(E codes only) or maybe an older ESC. Drink some more of that green tea but try the decaffinated kind. this can be printed and kept in the service truck for reference material , if you notice they cover all ovens e.g. if it starts with CM-CMT . the code for one is the same FOR THE OTHERS the #`s refer to size and features the -/01 - 06 refers to upgrades or changes made to the same production model Attachment: ErrorCodes_AllProduct.txt (Downloaded 88 times) Last edited on Mon Jan 22nd, 2007 12:52 am by jahjahbinks ____________________ outerspace holds the key to the biggest mystery in the universe . where do women come from ? Currently serving SPEED QUEEN , HUEBSCH |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 31st, 2007 06:59 am |
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laboy Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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laboy wrote: Thermador double oven F34/F39 error code on display. Replaced Air switch and wiring, still error code F34/64 (upper and lower switch) I think it time for control board... Any sugestion? THANKS!
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| Posted: Wed Jan 31st, 2007 03:46 pm |
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How is the air flow? Do you feel there is enough air moving to actuate the switch? Can you see/sense the switch moving when the fan comes on?
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| Posted: Thu Feb 1st, 2007 03:30 am |
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laboy Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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AccApp wrote: How is the air flow? Do you feel there is enough air moving to actuate the switch? Can you see/sense the switch moving when the fan comes on? Yes, I can hear clicks then fan motor starts.
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