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Very nice elaboration of the advantages of horizontal axis washers over their barbaric cousins, Daryl... or should I say Father Daryl.  To which jurisdiction are you attached?



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We just purchased a front loading machine, our first one.  The transmission on our top loader quit after six years.  I'm reading that we should use HE soap, but not sure why.  This is not noted in the manual.  My questions are:

- Is there a formulation difference between HE and regular soap

- I only saw HE Tide, but no other brands

- We have always used half the amount of soap recommended and our clothes have come out fine, will this same approach work with the front loader. 

Jason

 

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Lots of discussion about detergents in this thread.



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HE soap is High Efficiency, you must use this, and only 1/8-1/4 cup, powder only, read more soap box labels.  Most problems with front load washers is caused by using the wrong soap and too much.....suds will ruin the washer, should tell you how much in the users manual...



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You suggest powder only, but the only HE soap I could find was Tide Liquid.  I will look at the other brands you suggested in thread you sent. 

We have softened well water, so we don't seem to get too many suds.  We've been using 1/2 of the recommended amount in our top loader and the clothes came out fine.  We'll continue this practice with the front loader. 

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Early on in this topic, wain asked if there was any data documenting a measurable difference between horizontal and vertical axis washers. I have some pretty interesting cost comparison files prepared by Staber. Since, as Fr, Basil pointed out, the Staber spins at slower speeds than competing horizontal axis washers. Therefore, I expect these results to represent conservative cost performance parameters for all horizontal axis washers.

This first one is a break even analysis done on Microsoft Excel, 168K. More to follow.

Attachment: Break-Even Point1-Electric (e-mail).xls (Downloaded 19 times)



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Residential cost comparision, doc file, 30K.

Attachment: Cost Comparison for Residential.doc (Downloaded 9 times)



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Here's a doc on replacing the brushes in the Staber washer motor (RE: Fr. Basil's observations regarding the universal motor used in the Staber vs. an induction motor used in some competing brands).



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Here is link to the Energy Star web site specifically for Washers (you can consult several appliances actually). On this site, there is a list which is very upto date (1/20/06 -5 days old from the date of this posting).

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=clotheswash.pr_clothes_washers

I recommend openning the Excel version of the file and then sort them by "Energy Usage" (the higher the number the more efficient the machine is) and "Water Usage" (the lower the number the more water is saves).

You will find very interesting information. The most energy efficient machine is not the staber or the duet, it is actually a wirhlpool LHW0050. Staber is is ranked 125 out of 300 machines listed.

Regarding water usage, they list an LGWM268 (it seems that this one is just coming out)

 

I hope this helps.

 








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