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Posted: Wed Jul 19th, 2006 12:39 pm

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If the motor runs without the belt, the door lock, timer and wiring harness can be eliminated as a source of trouble. Can you spin the drum by hand? Does the machine tumble under it's own power at any point in the cycle?

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Posted: Wed Jul 19th, 2006 01:53 pm

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The drum spun by hand. I reattached the belt and repeated the test, and the motor spun and turned the drum. That was at the beginning of the wash cycle. It doesn't do anything during the spin cycle. Does that point to the speed control board?

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Posted: Wed Jul 19th, 2006 02:10 pm

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sammo wrote: Does that point to the speed control board?

No, not really. You need to see if the timer is passing voltage to the board during the time when the drum should be spinning.

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Posted: Mon Jul 31st, 2006 07:52 pm

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Lock control unit part number 131888900. I replaced this the unit and followed all of the directions. Door lock works fine but now will not do final spin cycle. Any suggestions?

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Posted: Sat Dec 2nd, 2006 07:38 am

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I'm glad I found this site, read about Frigidaire problems and was able to fix my washer myself, sent you a love offering for the beer fund, the photo helped also.
Thanks :cheers:

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Samurai Appliance Repair Man wrote: Remove the front panel, take the suction hose off the pump and remove the coins and bobby pins from the pump impeller. Good to go.

Hello, I had this problem a couple weeks ago and found a bra underwire stuck in the motor. After following your sage advice, everything has been working fine since then.

Yesterday, it stopped pumping the water out again. I ran another load and it worked. This morning, it wasn't pumping again, so I took it apart in search of yet another underwire. This time there was nothing. I did notice, however, that in trying to spin the blades by hand, there was a lot of "startup" resistance. I put it all back together and its working fine again.

My question is whether the on again / off again nature of this problem, coupled with the difficult in hand spinning the blade is a good indication that the water pump in the nine year old machine needs to be replaced. What do you think? I certainly don't enjoy wrestling the red metal flangy things and getting stinky water all over my laundryroom floor. Should I bite the bullet and replace the pump, or does it need some kind of WD40 lubrication treatment? I took the plastic cover off that sits just above the motor and the motor itself is pretty rusty looking.

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Posted: Sat Oct 20th, 2007 05:38 pm

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You can inadvertantly damage any motor by trying to run it in a locked rotor state. I'd replace the pump.

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Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2007 11:10 pm

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Re. door lock kits....

DONT waste the time and effort changing the weight, throw it away

ive done frigidaire service for 5 +years and have changed hundreds of those kits and never changed the weight, i have yet to see one latch assembly damaged by the old weight

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Posted: Wed Nov 7th, 2007 11:03 pm

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AccApp wrote: You can inadvertantly damage any motor by trying to run it in a locked rotor state. I'd replace the pump.

Okay, I bought the new pump (part number 131268401) but the connector locations for the green grounding wire and the "power harness" are on the left side of the pump instead of on the right like the old pump.

The photo shows the new pump on the right and the old pump on the left. Notice that with the new pump, I'm having to route the two sets of wires across the top of the pump and, therefore, cannot fix the plastic, protective water shield (I guess this is what it is) across the top of the pump. If I mount the pump with the power connectors facing right, then the discharge valve is on the wrong side.

What is the solution here? Does Frigidaire sell some kind of wire extenders that extend the length of the ground wire and the wiring harness to solve just this problem? If so, what are the part numbers? Or, is there some way to reverse the direction of the discharge valve?

As always, grazie mille e birra molta!!

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Posted: Wed Nov 7th, 2007 11:59 pm

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looks like a generic model. A common problem associated with tese washers is a generic sub pump. 1 size fitz all. and you have to figure out how to make it work. hok the wires up first then the hoses and try to make at least one screw hold the pump in place or leave it loose. It aint a space shuttle is it? wait with all these gadgets it might be!

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Posted: Thu Nov 8th, 2007 12:10 am

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Thanks, I figured it out. You have to disconnect the white plastic thingy that attaches to the hose and rotate the whole pump over. As you said, its designed to be a bit universal and I just had to monkey around with it until I figured it out.

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I HAVE A KENMORE 417-440925000 FRONT LOADING WASHER, IT WASHES FINE AND DRAINS BUT, ALAS, NO SPIN, I THINK IT IS TRYING TO ENTER THE SPIN CYCLE AND WILL GO ABOUT 2 SLOW ROTATAIONS EACH WAY THEN IT QUITS THE DISPLAY SIMULTANIOUSLY GOES BLANK AND THERE ARE 2 SETS OF BEEPS FOLLOWING, THE DISPLAY REMAINS BLANK AND THE MACHINE DOES NOTHING MORE. IN YOUR EARLIER POSTS IT SEEMS TO POINT TO THE SPIN CONTROL BOARD, BUT THERE IS NOT A LISTING FOR ONE ON MY MODEL

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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 11:36 am

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Posted: Sun Jul 6th, 2008 08:43 am

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I thought I was pretty flippin' smart, finding this topic on this website with exactly the solution to my problem.

Unfortunately, there were still parts I could screw up, and I have.

I got the hose off, flooded my garage (could have used a little more warning to be prepared for that, by the way), and could not find an obstruction in either the hose or the pump. I hooked it back up, and viola, it drained, then spun it's heart out and I rescued the load of laundry and put it in the dryer.

I had one towel to "catch" the water (HA!), and it was a mess, so I tossed it in and thought I'd find out how my newly fixed washer worked. I was busy cleaning up the mess, blow-drying the indoor-outdor carpet, etc., when I noticed to my dismay that I hadn't seen the washer spin yet. Sure enough, I looked and it was in the final spin cycle, but it was just flopping around, and hadn't drained.

I'm smart enough that I left the cover off of the machine, but I'm not that fired up about going back in without a little more idea of what I'm looking for.

Should I have taken off the boot instead? Will I have the same water issue if I do that?

This is a fridgidare Gallery circa 1999, model # FWT449GFS2

Thanks for getting me this far and please get me the rest of the way!

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I have an update, and not a good one.

I took off the boot, found a few things but nothing substantial

I thought if I repeated the process of taking off the hose and draining the tub, I could rinse and spin another load of clothes. It didn't work, no draining going on at all.

I think I have a bad pump. Any ideas?

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FWT449GFS2 Wiring Diagram

Tumble Action Washers with AC Drive Motor (5995369211)

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Posted: Sun Jul 6th, 2008 07:10 pm

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Thank you. I have a neighbor who speaks that language.

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jcannon wrote: Thank you. I have a neighbor who speaks that language.If he also speaks Heineken, you're all set...

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RegUS_PatOff wrote: jcannon wrote: Thank you. I have a neighbor who speaks that language.If he also speaks Heineken, you're all set...

Luckily, he speaks "brownies," and my wife bakes mean ones.

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