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Kenmore Elite 3e Washer 110.45862401 Rear Tub/Bearing Replacement Problem

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Posted: Thu Nov 11th, 2010 08:29 am

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I recently diagnosed our washing machine's spin cycle problem as a bad bearing by tearing the machine apart and finding the burned out culprit. I decided I could fix it and ordered the rear outer tub with bearing Item # 1058891 from Repair Clinic.

Tonight I put the stainless steel tub back into the new outer tub and then reassembled the front and back outer tub parts with the clips and put on the drive pulley. I am concerned because there is "play" in the SS tub when I pull it up when the tub assembly is positioned in the upright position. I have tightened everything properly as far as I can tell.

Should there be any play here? It feels as if the shaft does not tightly fit in the bearings and wiggles when you pull the front of the SS tub. The drive pulley moves with this action.

It seems to me that there should be no play at all if the shaft is firmly fitted to the bearings Do I have a problem?

Thanks in advance.

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Posted: Thu Nov 11th, 2010 09:28 am

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it is a good idea to replace the wash basket along with the outer tub. the reason being is that as the bearing drags, it causes wear on the basket shaft. this wear will be machined into the shaft, so it may look as though the shaft isnt damaged.

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Posted: Thu Nov 11th, 2010 09:35 am

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the wash basket has no stops or shims

if by "play" you mean the wash basket can move front/back a slight bit, this is normal, if it wiggles up/down then the shaft on your wash basket is worn and must be replaced

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Posted: Thu Nov 11th, 2010 03:32 pm

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Thanks for the replies, guys. I will have to wait until this evening to take the basket back out of the tub to inspect it but Im pretty sure the shaft has no wear on it. Here are my reasons for thinking so:

1) While the outer bearing had partially disintegrated, the inner sleeve of the bearing was intact and was rotating with the shaft. There was no play or slippage between the shaft and bearing sleeve.

2) When removing the shaft/basket from the old outer tub, the shaft and bearings were "locked" tightly. I had to pound out the shaft with a board and hammer.

3) The shaft is the same diameter from end to end. At least on close visual inspection there was no wear-even a "machined" wear that deviated from the rest of the shaft on visual inspection.

4) When I inserted the basket into the new outer tub, there was far too much clearance between the whole length of the shaft and the inner bearing as I pushed it through. In fact, there was a lot of play as I pushed it through. I was surprised how easily it went through. To me it seemed that the inner bearing had too much tolerance between it and the shaft.

Could the bearing not be the right size? Are the inner and outer bearings different sizes? Anyone know what the measurements of the shaft of bearing should be?

Thanks. I'll pull the basket apart and get back to you after work.

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Posted: Thu Nov 11th, 2010 10:04 pm

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Any chance you could post a link to a video of this play?

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Posted: Fri Nov 12th, 2010 01:20 am

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Ok . I think I've been shafted.

Looking again at the pictures I took of the shaft when the basket was out I see that I misjudged the spacing between the seal and where the inner bearing rests on the shaft. It does indeed look warn right at the bottom of the shaft. I thought this was a space that was not against anything. I thought the bearing rested about an inch up from the bottom of the shaft.

So, do I have any options besides a brand new basket? Can I shim it. Is it worth putting more money into this 5-year old machine? Can I even return the drum now that I've greased the seal and put the clips on the drum?

Thanks.

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Posted: Fri Nov 12th, 2010 01:28 am

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You're in this far, a new basket would end the game

RepairClinic part #1515048

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Posted: Sat Nov 13th, 2010 01:48 pm

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Basket and spider part link==> http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDetail/Drum-or-Tub-Component/1515048

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