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| Posted: Fri Nov 5th, 2010 02:17 am |
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washernewb Grasshopper
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short story; replace the water pump for a new one. After installing the motor back it won't move just hums and get hot. Remove the belt and try to move the motor with my hand it moves freely so nothing is stuck, I believe  . Install the belt and I can still move the motor by hand with minor effort. check the lid switch and is working too at least and can hear the clicks activated.would the relay become damage when removing the pump? it was stuck to the shaft and I had to use some "elbow grease" to remove it. how can I test the relay?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 5th, 2010 02:49 am |
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BrntToast Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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i dont recognise the model number you posted, what is the brand name of the machine? you say the pump required force to remove from the motor, how much force did it require to reinstall? most pumps mounted directly to a motor have a spring loaded seal on the impeller, if you force the pump on to the motor shaft the impeller inside the pump moves up and binds on the pump housing i suggest you remove the pump then retry the motor to see if it spins, if the pump does not slide off the motor shaft easily it was most certainly binding and you will need to scrape all rust and sand the shaft smooth till the pump slides on/off with no effort
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| Posted: Fri Nov 5th, 2010 02:50 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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would that be a 417.99390100 ? what Relay ?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 5th, 2010 03:00 am |
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BrntToast Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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thanks Reg older frigidaire built kenmore, if you had to force the pump off you have certainly forced the impeller of the pump up inside its housing and the pump is binding, pop off the 2 clips and pull pump off motor shaft, you will find the motor spins again now scrape and sand shaft till the pump slides on/off with no effort if it does not seat correctly the impeller will rub and melt the new pump, been there and done that back when i was a n00b
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| Posted: Fri Nov 5th, 2010 03:00 am |
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washernewb Grasshopper
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Kenmore laundry center 417.99390100. If I move the motor by hand it rotates freely like nothing is stuck but I'll try your sugestion and see how it goes.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 5th, 2010 03:03 am |
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washernewb Grasshopper
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yes it is 417.xxx and I was refering to motor relay I'll try remove the pump as sugested
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| Posted: Fri Nov 5th, 2010 03:07 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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motor relay ?
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| Posted: Fri Nov 5th, 2010 03:21 am |
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washernewb Grasshopper
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removed the pump, the motor still not move, just hums
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| Posted: Fri Nov 5th, 2010 03:36 am |
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BrntToast Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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did you completely remove the motor from the washer while changing the pump? could you have mixed up or forgotten a wire? did you do anything else to that lid switch? bypassing that lid switch can burn the motor in the older friggy built washers
____________________ The only stupid question is the one not asked hope i've been helpfull, if you wish to buy Brnt beer kick here http://brnttoast.googlepages.com/home feel free to prvt msg frigidaire questions my way (i dont log in every day) |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 5th, 2010 03:51 am |
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BrntToast Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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did you try spin with the pump and belt off the motor? if not try again with belt off too, this way we know for sure its not related to reassembly also inspect the motor wires, some of them are very close to where the springs clip to the motor, its possible one got pinched or broken
____________________ The only stupid question is the one not asked hope i've been helpfull, if you wish to buy Brnt beer kick here http://brnttoast.googlepages.com/home feel free to prvt msg frigidaire questions my way (i dont log in every day) |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 5th, 2010 11:39 am |
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washernewb Grasshopper
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had to, there was no way to remove the pump without removing the motor. Wires only go one way into the motor because they are keyed for each side.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 6th, 2010 03:15 am |
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BrntToast Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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post a request for a service manual for your kenmore, maybe our sears guy has access to the wiring diagram for your washer the frigidaire site doesn't go back in time far enough for your style of washer so i can help with test procedures if you can locate the wiring diagram on the unit post it for us so we can help with the next tests required only other thing i can suggest is a kick start, while the motor humms, spin the trans pulley and see if she goes, however this is not a sure test for a damaged motor on all friggy washers, as some wire a start winding in series with the lid switch
____________________ The only stupid question is the one not asked hope i've been helpfull, if you wish to buy Brnt beer kick here http://brnttoast.googlepages.com/home feel free to prvt msg frigidaire questions my way (i dont log in every day) |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 8th, 2010 01:09 am |
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washernewb Grasshopper
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I worked on the wiring, what I call "relay" had a loose conector, went to junk yard for washers and found similar controller from burned motor. Replaced and motor now is working, test without belt, with belt and is working. I had to repair the pump so I need to wait for the 5200 adhesive to cure, will test with pump and let all know how it goes.
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