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Posted: Thu Oct 21st, 2010 12:47 pm

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HELLO, I AM PRETTY HANDY AND I AM STUMPED AS WELL AS 14 OTHER "APPLIANCE REPAIR PROFESSIONALS". THIS IS MAY LAST HOPE! I HAVE A KENMORE DRYER 110.84722401. IT IS ONLY 2.5 YEARS OLD. THE PROBLEM IS THE TIMER MOVES BACKWARDS ON AUTO AND TIMED CYCLES! THIS MODEL IS VERY SIMPLE WITH NOT MANY PARTS. LIKE A DUMMY, I REPLACED THE TIMER AND OF COURSE IT WAS NOT THE PROBLEM! I SHOULD HAVE TESTED IT FIRST, I KNOW, I KNOW! I CHECKED THE CYCLING THERMOSTAT WITH AN OHM METER AND HEAT AND IT IS CYCLING JUST FINE. I SUSPECT IT IS THE ELECTRONIC CONTROL BOARD, BUT EVERYONE I HAVE SPOKEN TO STATES THAT THE BOARD IS ONLY FOR THE AUTO DRY SETTING. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO TEST ON THE BOARD. VISUALLY THERE ARE NO BURNT PARTS AND IT LOOKS FINE! PLEASE HELP!

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Posted: Thu Oct 21st, 2010 12:53 pm

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Is this dryer electric or gas. This type of problem would generally be related to an electrical issue rather than the dryer.

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Posted: Thu Oct 21st, 2010 12:59 pm

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IT IS ELECTRIC. IT IS NOT AN ELECTRICAL ISSUE! THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THIS CHECKED!

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Posted: Thu Oct 21st, 2010 01:01 pm

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WE THOUGHT IT WAS ELECTRIC FIRST, SO ALL THE ELECTRIC WAS CHECKED, OUTLETS.. ETC.

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Posted: Thu Oct 21st, 2010 01:22 pm

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Can you scan your schematic and post a link of it somewhere?

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no, it is stuck(sticker) inside the dryer. I can't seem to find one online, but i will try again.

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unable to find a schematic online.

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Timer Motor ... single winding AC Motor shouldn't be able to run backwards ..

110.84722401 Wiring Diagram

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i know, but it does. on timed dry if i set it to 10 mins, it will move backwards to 15, 20, etc

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i believe a bad transformer on a pole can cause mechanical clocks to turn slow, but i'm not sure if that could make one turn backwards

maybe another tech knows what affect AC cycles can have on a clock

just to verify its not electrical related i suggest you buy or borrow a clock with mechanical hands that plugs into the wall and plug it in one of the basement outlets to see if it keeps time correctly

cause everything i know tells me there is nothing you can do to the wiring inside the dryer to make the timer turn backwards

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is there a way i can bypass the control board? i still think that's the problem! i don't want the "auto" cycle anyway.

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i checked the outlets with one of those outlet testers with the lights and everything was fine.

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havintrouble wrote: is there a way i can bypass the control board? i still think that's the problem! i don't want the "auto" cycle anyway.
shouldn't matter,

the Control Board is by-passed in the Timed Dry Cycle ..

you could completely disconnect it, and Timed Dry should still work

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an outlet tester tests voltage and polarity

it will not test hertz, this is why i am suggesting an old style plug in clock with hands

if you do try the clock test, plug the clock into the outlet of your range as its your other 240 volt appliance

does your range have an old style clock? does it keep correct time? a bad transformer will not affect digital clocks btw

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hertz shouldn't matter, neither should polarity (AC) ...

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isn't the unit simple, why is this so hard to figure out?

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trust me, the electric in the home is fine, but, thank you!

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havintrouble wrote: ... THE TIMER MOVES BACKWARDS

I REPLACED THE TIMER AND OF COURSE IT WAS NOT THE PROBLEM!

bad Timer ..

was the replacement Timer new ?

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Posted: Thu Oct 21st, 2010 03:38 pm

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YES, THE TIMER WAS REPLACED AND BRAND NEW.

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I ALSO TESTED THE TIMER, OLD AND NEW WITH A METER, BOTH TESTED FINE. (YES, I KNOW HOW TO TEST IT THE CORRECT WAY)

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