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ApplianceGuru.com: The Samurai Appliance Repair Forums > Do-It-Yourself Appliance Repair Help > The Laundry Appliance Repair Forum > DRYER TIMER RUNS BACKWARDS |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21st, 2010 03:47 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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havintrouble wrote: YES, THE TIMER WAS REPLACED AND BRAND NEW. sealed box/package ... ? still ... bad Timer ..
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 12:36 am |
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havintrouble Grasshopper
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Well I guess, no one can figure this mystery out. I thank everyone who tried!! If I eventually figure it out I will let everyone know what it was! Thanks Again!
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 01:26 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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RegUS_PatOff wrote: still ... bad Timer .. can't be anything else ... UNLESS ... possibly if one of the bigger Black wires or Red wire, ect, is looped near / or too close to the Timer Motor (round) housing
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 03:10 am |
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certified tech group 51 Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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( Somebody verify this ) .....the timer part number by sears, 3406712 regu.s. has a timer with p/n 3976584................... What is the timer part number that was installed in your dryer????
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 03:23 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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certified tech group 51 wrote: ( Somebody verify this ) .....the timer part number by sears, 3406712 regu.s. has a timer with p/n 3976584................... What is the timer part number that was installed in your dryer???? yes ... you're correct .. When I enter 110.84722401 into RepairClinic, it doesn't know that model number, but it shows parts for other close models (but no cigar)  (previous post edited) ALSO, did you replace the Timer Motor ? (or complete assembly) OR just the Switch Assembly ?
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 04:26 am |
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SANTA Master Appliantologist
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Thats how timers run in the "bizarro" world.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 01:17 pm |
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havintrouble Grasshopper
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The "ENTIRE" (as one complete) assembly timer was replaced with a brand new one. Sears part # 3406712. The one that came with the dryer has the exaxt same parts numbers on it. THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE TIMER!! If it was I would not be here. I have tested both timers with a meter and they both have the same readings. The reason why I'm here looking for help is because of the complex issue of this.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 01:25 pm |
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appl.tech.29501 Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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Just be patient, let me do some checking today. The only time I have ever seen a timer run backwards is when you try to change just the timer motor and you use the incorrect one. I understand this isn't the case here. I will post back later tonight.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 01:38 pm |
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havintrouble Grasshopper
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ok thanks for all the help, i'll stand by. at least i can still use the dryer, i just move the timer by hand.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 02:00 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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havintrouble wrote: ... THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE TIMER!! If it was I would not be here. testing with a meter would be inconclusive .. that would only test to see if they work at all.. Order a Timer from RepairClinic if it doesn't work, it can be returned (less shipping)
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 03:42 pm |
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havintrouble Grasshopper
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IT IS NOT INCLONCLUSIVE....NEVERMIND, THANKS ANYWAY!
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 04:03 pm |
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certified tech group 51 Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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You stated that the dryer is 2.5 years old. Did you buy it used or new out of the box???? If new out of the box, did the timer always operate backwards???.........The original design had a timer body with a timer motor that could be purchased separately........... Let appl tech. work his magic on this little conundrum........
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 04:37 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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RegUS_PatOff wrote: RegUS_PatOff wrote:still ... bad Timer ..
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 07:06 pm |
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kdog Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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I actually lost a bet with another tech many years ago when he claimed the timer in a KitchenAid dryer developed an issue where the timer ran backwards - I thought it not to be possible, but in that case he was correct and replacement of the timer did solve that Did this dryer ever work correctly ? Last edited on Fri Oct 22nd, 2010 07:07 pm by kdog ____________________ Can Ye spare some 'cutter me brutha ? http://web.me.com/zenzoidman/kdog/ |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 23rd, 2010 03:21 am |
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appl.tech.29501 Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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certified tech group 51 wrote: You stated that the dryer is 2.5 years old. Did you buy it used or new out of the box???? If new out of the box, did the timer always operate backwards???.........The original design had a timer body with a timer motor that could be purchased separately........... Let appl tech. work his magic on this little conundrum........ I agree with Master Reg. that the problem is with the timer, but something still isnt right. Did you buy this dryer new? Did it ever work right?
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| Posted: Sat Oct 23rd, 2010 01:39 pm |
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havintrouble Grasshopper
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The Dryer was purchased brand new out of the box, sealed! It always worked properly including the timer! I have Replaced the timer for a 3rd time,(with a brand new one!) just to give you guys benefit of the doubt. It still is NOT the Timer, all 3 timers do the same thing!! I have tested all 3 timers and they all test the same. Once I figure out what this is, I will post it here.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 23rd, 2010 01:41 pm |
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havintrouble Grasshopper
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can I just rewire the dryer to work without the timer? I really don't even need it.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 23rd, 2010 01:42 pm |
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havintrouble Grasshopper
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all i need to know is what wires to disconnect/connect.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 23rd, 2010 02:23 pm |
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KurtiusInterupptus
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havintrouble wrote: trust me, the electric in the home is fine, but, thank you! sorry to keep hammering on this but maybe you don't realize how many times i have been told this (including by electricians) and it turns out it was not fine. as far as the replacement timer, are the two wires feeding the timer motor plugged into terminals or permanently fixed to the connection points? if you can remove them, try reversing their positions, just for kicks. also, according to the wiring diagram this is a 120vac dryer, right?
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| Posted: Sat Oct 23rd, 2010 05:11 pm |
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certified tech group 51 Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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You will have to for give some of these questions that we ask,  , but we heed to know things. In your first post you changed the old timer with a new timer.......did the machine get moved ??, power surge,?? or out of the blue it just started to run backwards?? Look at the old timer what numbers are on the side of the motor vs. the numbers on the side of the new motor, are the close??
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