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 Hi, I have the infamous even heat dryer.  The even heat control was bad so I ordered another.  The new one came with a DC motor relay.  I took out the old AC relay but I can't install the new DC relay because the blue wires don't fit.  The blue wires each have a little black wire connected to them, which makes it too bulky to fit onto the recessed prong of the new DC relay. 

The instructions I got with the even heat control board do not address a black wire attached to the blue wires.  The instructions just say to attach the blue wires onto the new relay.  :?

How do I swap out the AC relay for the new DC relay?

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what's the part number of the Even Heat board you ordered ?

Would that be Even Heat Board Kit Part # 279903

does the old AC Relay and the new DC Relay look like this ?

or post pictures somewhere http://www.imageshack.us/
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279903 Part Instruction Sheet (for reference)

 



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 Thanks for the fast reply.  Yes, I did recieve the kit with the part number you mentioned.  Here's some pics:

The blue wire with the black wire attached



OldAC relay



New DC relay
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 The DC relay coil terminals are on the left end. You can see a diagram and other close-up pics in this post...

http://fixitnow.com/wp/2009/03/17/easy-fixes-for-two-common-problems-with-the-whirlpool-even-heat-dryers/



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 OK, maybe I am not explaining my problem well enough. I can't connect the blue wires to the DC motor relay because there are black wires attached to the blue wires (see picture #1 in my last post). I can't physically cram all that into the hole and onto the prong. How do I get the black wires off the blue wires? The instruction sheet never mentiones a black wire that is connected to the blue wires.
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 puppyduks wrote: ... The blue wire with the black wire attached ...

that "connector adapter" could be (carefully) "flattened" together with a pair of needle-nose pliers ..
be sure not to flatten the Female Terminal part of the Connector.

Then if positioned correctly (one way or the other), could fit.



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 I wonder if you even need the black wire-- would need to see your wiring diagram. Should be included with the tech sheet for your dryer, which you should have. Can you scan in the schematic and fax it to me? 866-315-4504.



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 (2) Black Wires go to the Start Push Switch

110.68972890 Wiring Diagram



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 Thank you so much for all your help!! I am a single mother trying to make ends meet, so I need to fix this myself... and when it comes to electronics I am dumber than a bucket of hair. :D

Here is another picture of the blue wires with the black wires attached.  The black wires don't seem to go anywhere.  They go from blue wire to blue wire with that little lock in between.  I have named the black wire The Albatross. :)

I can send a fax tomorrow when I get to work if it's needed.  Thanks!
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 The "Albatross" looks like an electrical Capacitor ..

not shown on the wiring diagram, but should be kept connected.

 



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 ok thanks.  Looks like I'll be needle-nosing it. 
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 Would it be okay to chip away at the black plastic on the relay with some snips, to enable the wire to fit?
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 puppyduks wrote: Would it be okay to chip away at the black plastic on the relay with some snips, to enable the wire to fit?
Towards the outer edge ...

That would work OK



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 OH MY GOSH you guys are lifesavers!  I got the blue wires on after snipping a bit of the outer edges.  Installed the new even heat control board.  BUT, unfortunately I forgot to use the new wires that came with the kit and just plugged the old ones into the new parts (with the exception of the one pink/black wire that I taped out of the way).  Is this okay or do I need to put the new wires on too?  They look the same as the old ones.
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 I don't know.. they may be wired differently ..

should use the new Harness ..

 



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 I DID IT!!!! :D:D:D  Put the new wires on and fired it up and it's working.

Thank you guys so much... I would give you guys a big kiss if you were here.  If you're ever in Northern CA, dinner's on me!

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
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 I'm feelin' the wuv...



... and it's givin' me happy feets...



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 What a cute Kitty in front of that Miele dishwasher



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 Actually, it's our old Kitchenaid war horse. But she was a cute kitty!



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 Just wanted to update to say that I have been using my dryer TONS and it's still working good (knock on wood). Thanks again for guiding me through the fix.
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