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| Posted: Tue Nov 17th, 2009 04:01 pm |
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sareini1@yahoo.com Apprentice Appliantologist, First Class
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sorry the model # is 110.29832800 don't know how to edit the subject line, or remove post completely. hello all, I'm working on this washer, this is new to me. the washer won't fill. the spin cycle works. though to to check the inlet valve solenoids got 752 ohm on the cold and 740 ohm on the hot, also did a volt test 120 on the hot side to ground on both hot and cold. but no voltage across the hot to the neutral. don't have a tech sheet or service manual. any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks Last edited on Tue Nov 17th, 2009 04:06 pm by sareini1@yahoo.com |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17th, 2009 05:54 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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I can't find a wiring diagram for that model, but should be similar to most Whirlpool TL's Sounds like a problem with the Neutral, although the Motor would't work without Neutral.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17th, 2009 11:01 pm |
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sareini1@yahoo.com Apprentice Appliantologist, First Class
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i have the wiring diagram, but don't know what to look for.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17th, 2009 11:24 pm |
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Pele Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Does it agitate? Perhaps the fill switch thinks the drum is full already.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17th, 2009 11:41 pm |
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sareini1@yahoo.com Apprentice Appliantologist, First Class
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no. i turned it manually to the spin cycle and it spins.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18th, 2009 02:41 am |
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Pele Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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^ Right. Spin is usually done while emptying. It does not rely on the fill switch. Turn your washer's timer/cycle knob and you'll hear the clickedy clickedy noise... Each one of those is a switch that turns on a new step... But some of those steps stop the timer so that it will not go on until the step is complete. Follow the timer step by step... Wash, Spin, Rinse, Spin, Stop. But you have to break it down a little more: 1.) You turn the timer to the beginning of a wash cycle. 2.) Timer does NOT advance. The first thing it does is fill the basket. 3.) Water level switch activates when water reaches the desired level. 4.) Water level switch triggers the timer to start advancing and runs the motor/transmission to agitate mode. 5.) Timer gets far enough to end the wash cycle. Activates the motor/transmission to spin. 6.) After the time has elapsed for spinning, the timer STOPS again to fill the basket for rinse. With the timer stopped, the fill switch is in control again... 7.) Once the fill switch detects the basket is at the right level, it starts the timer again. 8.) Timer starts the motor/transmission to agitate again for the rinse cycle. 9.) After the timer has run through the rinse cycle, it starts the motor/transmission on the final spin cycle. 10.) Wash done! Timer stops.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18th, 2009 10:47 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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sareini1@yahoo.com wrote: ... did a volt test 120 on the hot side to ground on both hot and cold. but no voltage across the hot to the neutral... check voltage between Neutral to Ground .. should be 0v
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18th, 2009 12:42 pm |
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sareini1@yahoo.com Apprentice Appliantologist, First Class
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neutral to ground also 120v. i pushed the switch in and took a reading ( think there should be no power). with the switch off read 120v at hot to ground & neutral to ground, is this normal thanks all for your help
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18th, 2009 01:25 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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sareini1@yahoo.com wrote: neutral to ground also 120v. not normal .. Is your Wall Outlet wired correctly ? Hot is the smaller Blade Neutral is the larger Blade Ground is the round/half-moon hole check your Wall Outlet and then where the Line Cord enters the Washer ... and maybe further ..
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18th, 2009 02:12 pm |
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sareini1@yahoo.com Apprentice Appliantologist, First Class
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wall out is good. juice come in and into a 3 pin connection. then into a black box mounted on the top of the washer. this box i about 1.5" x 1.5' x 2.5" don't know what this is for, here is some # on the box "F11.126/980-211"AND "EN60939-2". i checked the black and white coming out of this box and had 120v on the white side and no v on the black. can you tell me what this box is and is this normal. thanks
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18th, 2009 02:22 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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sareini1@yahoo.com wrote: wall out is good. . I don't know about the "box", yet, but White is Neutral 0v Black is hot 120v IS the Wall Outlet polarity correct ? 120v from small Blade to Ground ? Is this the original Line Cord & Plug ?
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18th, 2009 03:52 pm |
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sareini1@yahoo.com Apprentice Appliantologist, First Class
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IS the Wall Outlet polarity correct ? yes 120v from small Blade to Ground ? yes Is this the original Line Cord & Plug ? yes line in is of the 3 pin type goes into the box gray & white ( gray to ground 120v white to ground 0v) comes out black & white ( white to ground 120v black to ground 0v)
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18th, 2009 04:09 pm |
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sareini1@yahoo.com Apprentice Appliantologist, First Class
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OK just found one possible problem. goes into the, box gray & white ( gray to ground 120v white to ground 0v) i reversed these wires, looks like someone may have worked on this machine before and put the wire backwards. now the black coming is hot, and the white is not. now when i checked for voltage at the solenoid there is no voltage. this machine does not have a water level switch, there must be a sensor built in somewhere?
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18th, 2009 04:19 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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That's a Line Filter .. I don't know why it's wired that way .. do you have a part number of your wiring diagram ?
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18th, 2009 06:00 pm |
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sareini1@yahoo.com Apprentice Appliantologist, First Class
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part # rev W10202237 C does this help, is this the # you looking for?
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18th, 2009 07:48 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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that's the wiring diagram I've been looking for, but can't find ..
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19th, 2009 08:28 pm |
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sareini1@yahoo.com Apprentice Appliantologist, First Class
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thank you all for your help. I'm at a stand still with this machine. would appreciate any other suggestions.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19th, 2009 09:41 pm |
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NCSU_laundry_tech Sublime Master of Appliantology
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i have seen a bad line filter that lost neutral causing no fill. sounds like your problem. bypass the pos Last edited on Thu Nov 19th, 2009 09:45 pm by NCSU_laundry_tech ____________________ To alcohol! The cause of... and solution to... all of life's problems. Doc Watson - Shady Grove: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-kaG1NuLZM riding my dirtbike in clayton NC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnCmY0vzmYM |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20th, 2009 06:48 am |
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grey one Sublime Master of Appliantology
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I still think it may be the water pressure (level)switch.Unhook the "t" , "p" , "v" wires and check for continuity on the switch : v - t , and v -p. For filling v - p should have continuity. Also connecting wiring.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20th, 2009 04:09 pm |
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sareini1@yahoo.com Apprentice Appliantologist, First Class
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thanks for the info. bypassed the pos same results. machine does spin. as for "t" , "p" , "v" . i don't know what this means, and now i can't find my wiring diagram. thanks again for taking time to help me with this problem.
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