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 Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2009 03:52 am
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So my clothes were still sopping wet after a full cycle.

The black dust under the machine and the thoroughly glazed belt explained the loud squealing noise I had heard while the machine ran the night before.

Points of note:
- Timer advances properly.
- Pump drains the basket properly.
- Agitation is good.

There is no evidence of water on top of the transmission, HOWEVER, I did recently have a water leak in my basement and there was about an inch of water standing around the machine. (Not due to the machine. A toilet in the nearby bathroom failed.)


My original assumption was that the belt was just old and slipping because of the added load of a full basket of clothes and water. I replaced the belt and still had the same problem. (Belt P/N: MAY220348)

I thought the spring that added tension to the motor was weak and attempted to add tension on the belt by pulling the motor a little. This did not help.

I put the old belt back on as I didn't want to trash a brand new belt with troubleshooting.


There were a few times during my troubleshooting when I could not spin the inner basket, so I checked between the inner and outer basket for foreign objects. None there, but a lot of old detergent and lint which I cleaned out. Then again, I did have it go through various parts of the cycle to figure out how the transmission worked, so the brake could have been locked.

I've gotten it to spin by giving it a good push start. Eventually the squealing belt noise will get softer and the basket will pick up speed.

Currently, I don't need to give it that kick start. It'll spin up with a little belt squealing at the start. But the brake drum at the bottom below the transmission feels a bit hot when it's spinning.


I am thinking there are a couple of possible problems here:

1.) Brake was stuck due to corrosion caused by the high humidity from the water leak.
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2.) The cam and thrust bearing that disengages the brake is getting old.

I'm hoping that with all the troubleshooting I've done that I've narrowed it down to the pulley and thrust bearing and cam kit, and that it'll be an easy repair... Simply pop the snap ring off and replace the main pulley and stack of bushings and cams...

Am I good or not?

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Great job getting this far! You're definitely on the right track. A couple of other things to check:

Make sure the pump pulley is spinning free-- should be able to turn it with your fingers. Also make sure that the motor is pivoting on it's plate freely.

Next, raise the lid and set her into spin. With the motor running, and the tub just sitting there not spinning, reach in and see if you can spin the inner basket by hand. If you can, that means your brake is released and your belt, motor, pump, brake and bearings are all fine, but your transmission is shot. If, OTOH, the inner basket won't spin by hand, then the brake is still engaged. That being the case, you'll just need a thrust bearing kit which is linked below.

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Is it possible for the brake to fail partially?
Can it drag or stick causing some resistance but not be fully locked solid?

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Pele wrote: Is it possible for the brake to fail partially?
Can it drag or stick causing some resistance but not be fully locked solid?

I have had only one or two occasions on this style machine to find the brake rotor frozen or binding on it's spline and not letting the brake release.   A slight pop with a small hammer seemed to free them but then disassembled and cleaned/lubed brake rotor spline on bottom of the transmission.

DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT TAKING THE BRAKE APART UNTIL YOU HAVE READ THE MANUAL AND CAME BACK HERE FOR ASSISTANCE, there is a discussion in here about how to disassemble the brake without the special $100 tool.



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On the same token, is it possible for a transmission to fail and cause these symptoms?

IE Agitating properly, and spinning but with slipping belt.

I have read up on the brake assembly. I am aware of the 200 lb force spring in there, which is why I'm hoping that the new cam kit will save my bacon.

I really hate sitting around at the laundromat, envying the commercial duty, stainless steel front loaders.

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If your thrust bearing is the problem usually you can lay the machine over and turn the tranny pulley counter clockwise and watch for the helical to rise releasing the brake...will only rise a quater inch or so. Also the machines are bad for the motor base plate getting stuck from gookus. Make sure the motor pivots back and forth smoothly.



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^

The pulley does rise up, but it's not quite a quarter of an inch.

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Sounds ok, with the front off the machine put it into spin and pull the motor to the left a little and see if it takes off and starts to spin.



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Nah, I mentioned in my first post, I tried to pull on the motor a little to tension up the belt. No help.

I also tried putting a pry bar in between the motor and the base of the cabinet to give me a little more leverage. I didn't want to trash the bearings in anything, so I didn't yank on it, but I did pull so that the belt was tight...

Still squealed when the basket was spinning up.

Though I am still using the old (glazed) belt to troubleshoot.  I don't wanna trash my brand new belt.

Last edited on Mon Nov 16th, 2009 03:07 pm by Pele

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My guess is that the brake linings were soaked and have swelled causing resistance to spin, thus the squealing noise that is heard once you helped it get going. You may just be able to disassemble the brake and clean the stator with some crocus cloth, and sand down and rough up the brake pads

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Yep I agree with Kdog, just proceed with caution.



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Thrust bearing kit and it spins!

The thrust bearing did not push up enough and with the pulley fully clockwise and up, the brake was still dragging a little.

I took detailed photos during the disassembly and reassembly procedure, including the spacer adjustment procedure.

I will be giving a full detailed writeup for others who have this problem.

Last edited on Tue Nov 17th, 2009 02:58 am by Pele

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God job! I hate it when they are like that :D



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Pele wrote:

I took detailed photos during the disassembly and reassembly procedure, including the spacer adjustment procedure.

I will be giving a full detailed writeup for others who have this problem.


Nice work! That's what I thought it'd be. It's kind of a rectal cramp job but the parts price is nice making it a worthwhile repair.

Would love to see your battle photos. You could do a write up with the photos hosted at a free a site like Flickr or TinyPic and post it in this forum as a new topic. I'll make it sticky so it stays up top.



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Samurai Appliance Repair Man wrote: Pele wrote:

I took detailed photos during the disassembly and reassembly procedure, including the spacer adjustment procedure.

I will be giving a full detailed writeup for others who have this problem.


Nice work! That's what I thought it'd be. It's kind of a rectal cramp job but the parts price is nice making it a worthwhile repair.

Would love to see your battle photos. You could do a write up with the photos hosted at a free a site like Flickr or TinyPic and post it in this forum as a new topic. I'll make it sticky so it stays up top.


As promised:
http://applianceguru.com/view_topic.php?id=22655

The job wasn't that much of a pain in the rear... It took me all of 45 mins including positioning things to take pics.

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