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Asko W660 blew fuses in middle of cycle, display on but no action after replacing fuses

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Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 09:15 pm

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I have an Asko W660. The other day it stopped in the middle of a cycle: no lights, no movement, no nothing. I replaced the fuses and the digital display on the front of the machine is lit up again, but it will not start, open the door, or do anything (I have since figured out how to manually open the door). I have the front and back panels taken off and I'm trying to figure out how to troubleshoot what is wrong, but I don't have a technical repair manual or any other assistance. There is an "hourglass" on the digital display that I don't remember being there before (I can't find any indication of what it means) and an error code that the user manual says indicates an open door -- but the door is not open. Please advise about how to troubleshoot further. I'm comfortable replacing anything if I know what is wrong. I've requested the service manual via PM so hopefully that will help.

Already Tried:
Replaced fuses; inspected motor brushes (look fine); made sure both pump and driver motors turn okay (manually); tested resistance on pump motor (checks out).

Posted: Sun Nov 1st, 2009 09:57 pm

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New development: I left the washer powered on and plugged in, unattended, for a few minutes. When I came back, the fuses had blown again.

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PM requested manuals PM'd

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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 12:08 am

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Tested a few resistances:

1) Main motor, assuming pins are 1-7 top to bottom:

Pins 1-2: 134.4
Pins 3-4: 3.4
Pins 5-6: 1.9
Pins 5-7: 1.2

These are off from the numbers in the manual: (68.7, 1.65, 1.52, and .58, respectively). Is this a problem?

2) Pump motor checks out (76)

3) Heating element checks out (28.4)

4) Three-way inlet valves check out (3.6k)

5) Door lock checks out (122)

Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 12:22 am

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W660 ?

you asked for the W600 manuals

I'll send a few wiring diagrams

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Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2009 01:25 am

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Thanks for the extras. Assumed they'd all be under the same "600 series" label (glad I was wrong).

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Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 02:15 am

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No luck yet. Is still blowing fuses. Any idea how to diagnose?

Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 04:25 am

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A few of the lines on the back of the PCB are a bit blackened.. and the little transformer-like thing on the circuit board has a small black halo around it. Is that normal?

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I wouldn't think so ... pictures ?

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Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 08:35 am

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Looks to me like the small transformer on the board has taken a jolt of electricity or just shorted out. Should NOT have that black halo of smoke around it, (the magic smoke has been released).

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Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 02:52 pm

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Do you think it's worth trying to find the component and replace it? The new board is $300 so I don't think I'm going to go that route. Do you think the busted transformer could have caused other components to go out too, or is there a good chance that the thing'll start working again if I solder a new one on there?

Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 07:18 pm

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I think you should replace the washer if you don't want to replace the control board, these machines are pieces of junk in my opinion.

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tmcnulty1982 wrote: Do you think it's worth trying to find the component and replace it? The new board is $300 so I don't think I'm going to go that route. Do you think the busted transformer could have caused other components to go out too, or is there a good chance that the thing'll start working again if I solder a new one on there?

if you can find the component it's worth a shot, but otherwise I agree with scott.

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Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2009 01:42 am

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Any tips for finding what replacement part I need to buy? The transformer is labeled "TR1" but I don't see that in the schematic (I could be blind).

Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2009 01:44 am

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Now that I actually understand what I'm looking at, I don't have a schematic for the board itself, just all the wiring in the washer.

Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2009 01:47 am

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there was probably a # inprinted on the part but may be gone from the heat. I would try to find an electronics or TV repair shop....they might be able to identify it.

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Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2009 01:50 am

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"Look before you speak"

I found some printing on the side of the transformer:

Kaschke 36/96
451

I'm assuming 36/96 is week 36 of 1996.

Searching digikey etc. for component now...

Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2009 01:55 am

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Yeah, that's not going to happen.. Yay obscure 13 year old German parts..

Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2009 02:10 am

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This is the closest I found: http://www.kaschke.co.uk/pdfaug05/Smart_Power-2008.pdf

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