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The tech that was here today said airflow was fine... 



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So if it's running, heating and has good airflow - what is the issue with the machine



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as of yesterday, I had to replace my second HLT in little over a month.



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Make sure the replacement thermostat is the correct one, also check outlet polarity

 

205 deg F according to diagram

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I will check for correct part... the plug polarity shouldn't be an issue... nothing has change in the room.. but I will check.


I will check the temp also..

I appreciate your time and insight!

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joetry wrote:  the plug polarity shouldn't be an issue...



Unless something goes wrong - my parent's 14 yr old direct drive suddenly quit one day, much to my surprise, the plug polarity was incorrect and had the motor centrifugal switch switching the hot wire all these years, the white wire finally couldn't take the heat anymore and the terminal burnt off of the wire - simple repair, but probably unnecessary had the plug been wired right



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point taken....



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Polarity is OK...   Still working after a few loads.



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Disconnect the Dryer Vent and check for good air-flow there and where it exits the house.

Check the Vent air temperature at the back of the Dryer.

If you have a Harbor Freight Store near you,

click on picture $ 4.99 sometimes on sale $ 2.99


 

 

Dryer Vent

Vent should be rigid metal.

Short lengths of flexible metal may be OK, if not crimped when moving the Dryer into place.

NO plastic

NO PVC

NO screws

Foil Duct Tape is OK.

With an empty load, Timed Dry, High Heat,
the vent temperature should cycle somewhere between 135F and 160F



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flexible metal 6 foot run vented out the wall.  I will check the temp later and update. 

Airflow is strong out the back... and strong out the wall.  I have made sure that there are no blockage in the vent pipe. 

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So I got my thermometer, started up the dryer...  and bam... no ignitor no flame....  and back to the original problem  no heat...  heading out to get another HTL... gonna, swap out Thermistor and logic board ( I have the new one...) 

I am at a lose..




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the High-Limit Thermostat is bad again ?  .... they (normally) don't go bad ...

It's a self-resetting Thermostat, not a Fuse.

 



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OK, I So now that I am back on the floor... have the old HLT in hand...  Part number for the bad one: 40113801.  I have replaced it with the part number found in the tech sheet: 3403140.  While I agree and would never argue the fact is the HLT in my hand when ohm'd out shows open.  The new shows closed.


I did notice one thing that is odd, i cleaned the inside of lint a month ago, it has a nice coating of lint in the cabinet again. not as much as on the 1st clean but still enough.

So since I seem to have gotten the folks attention at my local parts depot, I have in hand for no charge right now a new thermistor, I am going to put that in, the new HLT and the electronics that is still in the package (left by the last tech).  I know.. it goes against the concept, only replace when broken...  but I am at a lose and these are the parts that seem to have the impact on the HTL. 



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joetry wrote: ... have the old HLT in hand...  Part number for the bad one: 40113801.  I have replaced it with the part number found in the tech sheet: 3403140...
40113801 is a Thermal Fuse (not for your model), not a self-resetting High-Limit Thermostat

3403140 is the correct part number for a High-Limit Thermosat

they look similar

   

but there still seems to be a high temperature problem ...

if not taken care of, it'll blow your real Thermal Fuse.

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The part number I have for the High limit thermostat comes right off the failed component.   the 40113801 is stamped on the base, along with  360f, B2 and y197.

OK, I got it...  the The 4011 while it looks like the HTL  is not the right part.   So what happens if the tech that was here put the wrong part in.. the Thermal in stead of HLT...  should it have worked at all? and does it explain the short time to failure...  does it explain the heat issue... 

And the fun continues...

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someone put the wrong part in ...

It'll work for a while (or maybe longer if there wasn't a possible over-heating problem)

 



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Yeppers... I had the flu early in the week and the wife needed the dryer so I broke down and let her call the tech that replaced the HTL a month ago...    So a month ago the HTL failed, which would have been the orginal. 

The vent temp with an empty load is coming in @ 142F. 

Any ideas as to what I should be looking for associated with temp issues?






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joetry wrote: Any ideas as to what I should be looking for associated with temp issues?
blocked Vent, crimped Vent Hose ...

The self-resetting High-Limit Thermostat is 205 F

Your White Thermal Fuse is 196 F

You've been blowing the 360 F Thermal device ..

something's hot ...  :burning:



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Going to go get drunk.

Reg: I have been replacing the hlt. Sits up on the blower tube at about 1 o'clock.

So I agree I have something hot just wish it would stay hot. Sounds like life.

Thanks for all your help.

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Try a load with the vent disconnected and see what occurs

Do it once you sober up though

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