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 Posted: Wed Jul 1st, 2009 09:26 pm
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My Maytag FAV9800 (serial number 15247321GA) wash machine is still having problems with being out of balance during the spin cycle especially on small loads.  I have lubricated the bearings in the old clutch with success, but thought the new clutch design would be better.  As a result, I bought a new clutch, part #25001169, and tried to put it in.  Once installed, it makes a lot more noise, clicking sounds like it is bumping up against something.  The new clutch has a white plastic top with two "ears" sticking straight up on it, which is different from the old clutch.  I did not like all of the noise, so have put the old clutch back on after some WD40 was applied to the bearings.  Does anyone have anything on the installation of the new clutch (nothing was sent with the part)?  Is there anything special about installing it?  Any installation manuals?  Help.

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Pulley and clutch assembly
(The manufacturer has replaced part number 25001169 with this item, part number 12002211.)


part should have come with
Neptune Top Load Clutch Kit Instruction Sheet



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Since my clutch does not have an upper ring assembly, then should I only install the clutch?

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PWFisher wrote: Since my clutch does not have an upper ring assembly, then should I only install the clutch?
"Please discard the Upper Clutch Ring Assembly."

Last edited on Thu Jul 2nd, 2009 07:50 am by RegUS_PatOff



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I just PM'ed ya PW and as I mentioned in my PM I replaced my original clutch with the 25001169 clutch assembly just to see if it would work.  It did and has been in service for the past 5 months now.  I can see no mechanical difference between it and my original clutch assembly.  It works great in my FAV6800AW and for $50 you can't beat the price.  As I mentioned in my PM my Series 16 FAV6800AW did not use the upper One-way roller clutch bearing.  I believe the Series 10 and others have used this upper one-way roller clutch bearing.  As RegUS said... chuck it if not used on your original.  Getting the clutch re-seated properly on re-install is key.  

Good luck.     Dick

 

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If the old clutch doesnot have the white ears on it you need to pull that off of new clutch then install it won't seat with it on

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Hey everyone, this is from a post I put together in the past for clutch maintenance/replacement for the FAV6800AW/FAV9800AW.  I'm an owner and this worked for me.  I have tried to keep this as accurate as possible.  I dropped the link to the SM,  as most folks know you can get the SM from servicematters.com  I hope I have stiched the pic's correctly.

- Disconnect 120VAC power cord. Read and follow all safety warnings in the Service ManualThe Service Manual for reference. Sears Parts Direct for reference.Raise the top of the machine. Insert a flat blade putty knife approximately 2.5” from the left and right sides of the washer top, depress the spring tabs securing machine top to the washer base. See page 33 of the SM for putty knife insertion point. Remove the front panel see page 41.

Tools required; 3/8 inch socket and socket wrench to remove clutch pulley bolt. Page 47 of the SM1/2 inch socket or wrench to loosen Drive Motor tension bolt.5/16 nut driver or 5/16 ¼ socket on an extension to remove front panel see page 41 of the Service Manual

1. Lean the washer back and blocked up in that position against a wall for a better reach angle. Rotate 3/8” clutch Pulley Bolt CW to remove clutch bolt.

2. Follow SM page 46 & 47 to remove clutch pulley.

3. Remove 4 screws holding plastic cover on clutch, inspect clutch spring to make sure it is not broken. If either clutch spring retaining end is broken off then the clutch must be replaced. Inspect Roller Clutch bearings and clean up with WD-40 and re-lube with bearing grease. Most machine series use an Upper Roller Clutch bearing and always a lower clutch pulley Roller Clutch bearing. My series 16 machine doesn’t use the Upper Roller Clutch one way bearing. These bearings are one way rotation bearings in the Clockwise direction. Make sure the Spinner Shaft Coupler will rotate freely in the CW direction in both Roller Clutch bearings. If the Roller Clutch bearings or Spinner Shaft Coupler will not clean up with WD-40 I recommend a clutch replacement.

4. Replace white bearing plate into clutch pulley hub, insure key slot slips into clutch Spring pin in the clutch hub.

5. Replace Clutch plastic cover with 4 screws.

6. Reinstalling the Clutch Pulley assembly is the most difficult part of the process. With a tight work area try a test fitment of seating (if used) the Upper Roller Clutch bearing with the notches into the bottom of the wash tub. Then insert the Spinner Shaft Coupler into that bearing rotating CW to reseat the coupler notches to the spinner shaft. Then the clutch pulley to the squared end agitator shaft. Rock back and forth the clutch pulley assembly with upward lifting pressure to reseat the clutch assembly. When the clutch assembly is properly seated you will feel a 1/16-1/8" gap between the Pulley face and shaft end as mentioned and shown on page 47 of the SM. On reinstallation, tighten Clutch Pulley bolt CCW to 96” pounds 8’ foot pounds (Snug no torque wrench required).7. Do a quick wash and make sure clutch runs true with no wobble or clicking sound. If the clutch has not been seated properly it will spin off. If this happens go to page 16 of the SM Board Output Test and turn on Drain Pump in Service Mode to pump out excess water.8. Repeat steps 6&7 if the clutch has excessive noise or spins off. 

Some Pics for refferene; Not sure what Mytag calls the coupler that drives the spinner shaft coupler so I named it.



My original clutch is on the right side clutch on the left  is a new replacement p/n 25001169 lower cost clutch.   I wanted to try and it and it works fine in my series 16 nachine. My series 16 machine does not use the upper roller clutch bearing assembly.



Clutch opened up



Some folks have found the spinner shaft coupler is rusted solid to the one-way roller clutch bearing.

 

I hope this will help others with their clutch issues on this machine type.   Dick

Last edited on Fri Feb 5th, 2010 09:25 am by dh1200s

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Great post, dh! Domo for taking the time to put it to together. :dude:

Just wanted to add a convenient link to the service manual so it's all ratcheer:

http://www.mediafire.com/?2wzmdtyzykh




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Thank you Samurai, this is a great Forum, it and its members have helped me with issues related to my Range and Frig.   I wasn’t sure if I was allowed to post a link to the Servicematters site I meant to drop the other link also.  Sorry for not cleaning up my step by step post before I hit the reply key. 

Dick

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most links are OK ....

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