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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 10:55 pm
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Can now answer Certified Tech group 51... It stops spinning within 3-5 seconds when I lift the lid. 

It fills, agitating normally for a few minutes, then whines/knocks/hums/quits.  Timer advances through the rest of the cycle with the clothes just sitting in the soapy water. 

If we turn it off and let it sit for 1/2 hour or so and manually advance the timer, with a little creativity and a lot of patience we can get it to drain, fill, agitate, drain and spin, with no knocking or humming.  We just can't seem to get it through a complete cycle without the motor quitting on us.  

So... we've seen the water pump out, seen a good agitate, and seen a good spin.  We just haven't seen them all together at the same time in one cycle...

 

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that is a sound i have never heard. does it make the same noise during spin? did it make the same noise before replacing the transmission? have you tried to run it with the pump disconnected yet?

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hmmm anyone perhaps think is those bearings on the motor ceasing up???? I noticed a ton of lint/dust on the motor and coupling...

might I suggest running it with the motor not mounted and see if it will run through the whole cycle...

if the bearings are ceasing, the click click click your hearing is the centrifugal switch on off on off etc.... the only other thing I can think of is the basket drive is ceased in the tub support....

you can check the basket drive by removing the basket and transmission and rotating the basket drive by hand...



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i think the motor could be it, i doubt the basket drive because its stationary during agitation



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Ahhh... That's the final round Jeopardy question.  I can't believe that there is any 'first' on this site after all these years - but this is not your typical washer.  It's magical.  How else could it have worked so beautifully for 19 years with only a girlie grasshoppah repairing it? ;)

No update on what happens when the pump is off.  Today's my birthday and I didn't feel like getting that cabinet off again so soon, especially after the whole world just saw my dirty sheets spinning around on YouTube.   Thank goodness I didn't decide to wash my underwear...!!! :yikes:  But seriously, many thanks to RegUS for the help getting that clip out there. 

It may be of interest that I can't get any action out of the washer at all now.  Just the loud Jeopardy buzzer when I pull up the knob, no matter what cycle I rotate it to.  (Use your imagination for that sound...)

I'll try to find time to test it tomorrow.  What are your guesses, masters, and how much are you willing to wager?   My money's on the pump, and my wager is $39.25. 

 

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those pumps don't go "that kind of bad" unless an object has gotten caught in it....

but if you take the pump off and noise goes away then that is your answer... very quick test and can be tested w/o removing the cabinet... just gracefully tip it back against the wall and remove the clips. move the pump out of the way... return to its original upright orientation and test



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With all the calcification we found, something very well may have broken off and gotten caught in the pump.  Will test it out - hopefully tomorrow - and report back with the results.

Thanks...

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I believe you're going to find something stuck in the pump.  I had one act very similar this the other day and before actually starting to tear into it thought motor or speed control switch because it acted exactly like that problem.

It would agitate somewhat fine and then on spin it would keep kicking in and out on the motor start switch, then after a few attemps it started to bind more and completely stopped, (it drug the sock all the way into the pump where it finally stopped the motor from moving at all).



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Those of you who said 'pump' were partially correct... The hose that drains off of the pump felt 'crunchy' - when we took it off this is what fell out of the hose and pump... We believe some of these pieces might have broken free from the inside of the hose and backed up into the pump during agitate.  The pump was still ok, though.

But, those of you who said 'motor' were 100% on the money.  When we disconnected the pump, it ran fine for a few minutes then we heard the the motor start kicking in and out, then shut down.  The bearings were bad. 

We replaced the motor yesterday afternoon ($40 at the boneyard) and the washer is running better now than it has for many years.  The extensive cleaning/maintenance we performed really made a difference!  

[Side note:  For a few years now, it's taken at least two and sometimes three 60-minute cycles to dry our towels and heavy clothes.  We thought it was due to lint buildup in the dryer vent, but cleaning that out didn't help too much.  We now know there was just too much water left in the clothes after spin because of the plugged up basket holes.  Our test load of towels last night took less than 60 minutes to dry.]

Thank you as always, Sublime Masters, for your awe-inspiring technical assistance!  :D 

 

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