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 Posted: Wed Jan 28th, 2009 03:46 am
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Short Version: The spin cycle has developed some nasty vibrations, what should I look for in the spring assemblies to see if they are kaput?

Long Version: This same problem happened a year and a half ago. When I took the thing apart I found that at least one of the spring assemblies was no longer attached to the bottom frame. It looks like they just screw in and over time it had pulled through. I fixed the problem by adding a nut to the bottom of each spring assembly, clamping it to the bottom frame. That solved the problem and there was much adoration from the girlfriend. Great.

So the problem comes back, but this time I see that all three spring assemblies are firmly in place. The one near the balancing spring is more compressed than the rest though. This just seems to be due to the balancing spring, as when I removed it the tub was back in a central position. The springs themselves all appear to be intact though.

So, is there a damper in those spring assemblies that could be shot? If the thing does not have any obvious problems could it still be dead? How would I determine this? (I'd like to be fairly certain this is the problem before I drop $78 plus shipping on new springs.) What is up with that balancing spring? Is it in any way adjustable, and if not, what is it good for? Is there anything else I should be looking at?

I need some help with this as my the girlfriend may begin to doubt my powers over mechanical devices if I don't bring this thing back to working order. Thanks.

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Couple diagrams for you to look at to make sure we're on the same page. Check your washer against 'em:





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Thanks for the reply.

Hmm, that is quite different. Mine is this style:



With 5 being the spring assemblies and 4 being the balancing spring. I did manage to figure that out at least. It appears that it is there to balance out the motor, which hangs off the opposite side.

Earlier when I fixed it, the problem was that the spring assemblies were pulling out of the base (6). Thankfully that is still fixed.

I will try to include a photo tonight.

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OK, here is a photo of what I can see with the front off.

Attachment: 000_0546.jpg (Downloaded 58 times)

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often times the springs unscrew and can even eventually become separated.

they new one have a screw to eliminate this problem i believe



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So you are saying the one of the little metal cups would not longer be attached to the spring? It seems that in all three spring assemblies there are no loose pieces (other than the rubber covering becoming frayed and worn, but I don't think that would do anything).

From the look of it the back right spring assembly is more compressed and perhaps less stiff than the others (though it is hard to tell in situ and it seems to be a big PITA to take apart if I am not sure that is the problem).

It seems this is a simple mechanical connection though and it seems odd that a spring like this would just go bad over time. That does seem to be the likeliest problem but I want to make sure before I replace anything (as per Samurai's First Law of Appliance repair).

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Some good discussion of what you're in for in this topic:

http://applianceguru.com/forum2/4246.html



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Thanks. I had found that one when I originally searched, but he never was sure that the springs were his problem and he never came back to say if replacing them fixed it.

Is there anything else the problem could be, or do you think I should just try replacing the suspension spring assemblies?

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It not hard at all to pull the complete wash assembly out of the cabinet to inspect all the springs and mounting points.

Just remove the water inlet hose from tub cover, pull water level pressure hose loose from pressure dome on side of tub, disconnect drain hose at elbow in back and remove the wiring harness to motor.

Then you will see two bolts, one on each side right in front at each corner.  These two bolts and tabs that lock into the frame at back is all that holds the complete wash assembly in the cabinet now.   Remove the two bolts, left up the front of frame and slide it out the front.

Inspect all the points where the spring units mount on the upper plate, these are famous for breaking out around the nut and washer at the tops.  Also check each spring assembly and make sure they are solid at each base mount point, I'ven seen them rust the threaded part in the base and let them drop down to far also.

If all mounting points look ok and everything is solid then the only thing it can be is a collapsed spring.  If one looks lot lower then replace it or replace all three, (there not cheap!).

Also make sure none of the shipping retainers are still stuck around the middle of any of the three spring/shocks.  There is a metal band with a pin in it to keep each spring compressed and locked in place in shipping.  When you setup you pull the rip cord and it pulls the pins in all three retainer clamps and they should fall to the bottom of each spring out of the way and let the complete tub assembly spring up into the correct level operating postion.



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Wow, thank you for the excellent information.

"...pull water level pressure hose loose from pressure dome on side of tub..." So that is what that thing is. I was wondering.

"These two bolts and tabs that lock into the frame at back..." Oh thank goodness, I though there would be bolts on the back too. This will be easier than I thought.

"If one looks lot lower then replace it or replace all three, (there not cheap!)." No kidding, I was seeing around $78 plus shipping. I think this is for a set of three though. The thing was probably original to my place, which makes it 18 years old. If I had the cash I would just replace it entirely, but $75 would be worth it to keep it alive a few more years.

My girlfriend has determined today and tomorrow morning are put-the-dang-thing-back-together-so-I-can-get-some-laundry-done day so I will have to wait a day to disassemble it. Thanks a lot for your help.

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I always thought that was like $70 per spring.  I looked them up on 7 sites that I use for parts research and 4 of them specifically say this is a kit of 3 springs, (so it's really not that bad a price as I thought).

RepairClinic is one that for sure it says it's a kit of 3 springs and their price is quite comparable to others, (only $10 higher then the lowest price on the 7 sites I use for research, $10 cheaper then the highest price - SEARS).

Suspension spring assembly (Kit of 3 springs)
(Manufacturer part number W10207783 is RepairClinic item number 1468985.)
http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=154&N=1468985



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Thank you much. I will be able to take it fully apart on Sunday and see how likely they are to be the problem.

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I never came back to describe how it went. It turns out one of the springs had come apart. This was not evident until I pulled the whole thing out. After I replaced them everything was fine. Thank you much for your help.

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