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| Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 02:23 am |
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bogreen Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Hi, This is a 16 year old Kenmore washer. All the bells and whistles. 3 speed motor, deluxe solenoids with three hoses under the cabinet that need to be disconnected before removing the cabinet. Got the idea?? Well, this machine works fine until it gets to spin. Then it starts, stops, starts, stops repeatedly and keeps doing that. I encountered this exact problem about 6 years ago and I can't for the life of me remember how it turned out. I think I replaced the motor, then the timer and the problem persisted. Then I never heard from the customer again. So, I never really found out what the cause was. Reach back into your archives please and pull out this problem and it's cause for me. I've just got to know what causes this situation. Thank you as always, Bruce in L.A.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 04:05 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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is the motor HOT when it stops ? How long does it run each time ? How long does it stop each time ? Last edited on Mon Oct 27th, 2008 04:06 am by RegUS_PatOff ____________________ RegUS_PatOff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAY2LsKVEw my video production: “Easter Seals Walk With Me” (also in HQ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EBiLyYXMiA Upon leaving this Earth "Do you want the Smoking or Non-Smoking section ?" |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 04:22 am |
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bogreen Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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It stutters. It starts, then stops. It turns on and off, on and off, on and off over and over again. It never gets up to spin speed. Just starts for a second and stops for a second. Like a switch is being turned on and off quickly and repeatedly.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 08:45 am |
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bcippola Sublime Master of Appliantology 
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This answer is an absolute long shot.... I had this similar call 2 months ago and I all did was move speed selector switch around(knob that designates delicate"slow spin-agitate" or heavy duty"fast agitate and spin") The knob was actually stuck between cycles.I am sure I will never get that lucky again but give it a shot.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27th, 2008 12:48 pm |
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Pegi Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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Need to see if there is voltage to the motor or not when it is cutting in and out, if so could be a bad motor, if not trace back to see where the voltage is getting lost, could be as simple as bad connections at where the harness plugs onto the motor switch or a bad spot in the harness. Sounds like voltage is being lost somewhere in the spin cycle but not the Agitate cycle? Focus on the spin wiring...in the wiring, connections and motor terminals.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 12:19 am |
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grey shrek Sublime Master of Appliantology 
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Putting my 77 cent Canadian dollar on the speed switch.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 12:58 am |
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bogreen Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Hi, I don't have a schematic available for this machine. Do you know which wires I need to check voltage on for the spin cycle?? And if the voltage is 110, then it's the motor, but if the voltage fluctuates on and then off, it is something earlier in the chain, right? Thanks, Bruce
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 01:02 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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bogreen wrote: .. Did you find a model number ?
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 01:48 am |
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bogreen Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Yes. 110.92293810
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 02:39 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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I can't find a wiring diagram for that model (or similar)
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 03:36 am |
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denrayr Sublime Master of Appliantology 
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 im not sure if this will help you or not. it is a 3speed whirlpool machine i traced out some time ago. I dont know if its the same as your machine but you will have to trace power to the run winding as it sounds like the motor is recieving power to the start but not the run.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 01:02 am |
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K,man Sublime Master of Appliantology
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seen this numerous times,,stuck speed switch trying to run 2 speeds at a time, or just the startwinding,,no run winding activated ....
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 01:29 am |
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bogreen Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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OK, you're the third one to mention that switch. Can you help with testing it to confirm it is the culprit?? What tricks can I try, to get around it or at least to confirm that is it for sure? Thanks, Bruce
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 01:31 am |
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bogreen Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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You're the third one to mention that switch. How can I test it to make sure. Is replacing it the only thing I can do?? Bruce
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 02:52 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Try changing the Speed Selector (whatever it's called) Switch setting. There's (2) identical Relays #36 in the Control Panel. Try swaping those. 
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 10:37 pm |
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K,man Sublime Master of Appliantology
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on the wireing diagram there will be a chart that shows which terminals are closed in each position. you may find 2 closed when only one should be. but first rotate the switch back and forth several times and try it agian.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 05:33 pm |
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NCARepair Master Appliantologist
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Bad motor start switch.(Repalce motor) at center of diagram OR to BU-O is open. This will do this at all speeds because it is common to all speeds except start.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 06:40 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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bogreen wrote: ... this machine works fine until it gets to spin...agitates OK... Last edited on Fri Oct 31st, 2008 06:42 pm by RegUS_PatOff ____________________ RegUS_PatOff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAY2LsKVEw my video production: “Easter Seals Walk With Me” (also in HQ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EBiLyYXMiA Upon leaving this Earth "Do you want the Smoking or Non-Smoking section ?" |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 09:54 pm |
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bogreen Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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THANK YOU TO ALL who guessed it was the speed switch. R I G H T O N!!!!!!!!! It was the switch stuck between two settings. I moved it a little and then spun it around a few times and it went into spin everytime as it should. Again, thank you all. And especially to bcippola, Grey Shrek and K,man Bruce in L.A.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 1st, 2008 01:14 am |
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grey shrek Sublime Master of Appliantology
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