Kenmore Top Load Direct Drive Washer - 4 1/2 years old - The Laundry Appliance Repair Forum - Do-It-Yourself Appliance Repair Help

The Samurai Appliance Repair Forums Home

Not logged in - Login | Register

The Samurai Appliance Repair Forums > Do-It-Yourself Appliance Repair Help > The Laundry Appliance Repair Forum > Kenmore Top Load Direct Drive Washer - 4 1/2 years old

Appliance Parts
850,000 Parts (Including Sears-Kenmore)- 70,000 Photos! Return any part for any reason. Appliance repair parts and accessories shipped overnight.

Appliance Breakdown Diagrams
Cool, interactive diagrams that show you how your appliances are put together. A great troubleshooting aid!

Appliance Accessories
Specialty tools for appliance repair, service manuals, water filters, cleaners, and tons of other accessories for all your appliances.

Kenmore Top Load Direct Drive Washer - 4 1/2 years old

Moderated by: Trying to help, Pegi, hvacdrd, AccApp

New Topic

Author

Post

semirg54
Apprentice Appliantologist

Joined:	Tue Oct 7th, 2008
Location:
Posts:	13
Flavorite Brew:	coors light
Status:	Offline

Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 15:22

Quote

Washer no longer spins at any speed. It did spin occasionally until yesterday. Even with help (pushing tub) it does not spin. The sivler disk on top of the gearcase does rotate in the spin cycle. I noticed that there are black pieces of partices on top of the gear case. How do I know what has malfunctioned, clutch, brake assembly, etc. Can I access clutch my just removing gear case or does the agitator have to be removed.

Model # 110.24962300

Serial # CP4821840

Thanks

Last edited on Tue Oct 7th, 2008 16:20 by semirg54

RegUS_PatOff
Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology

Joined:	Sat Sep 24th, 2005
Location:	Milwaukee, Wisconsin USA
Posts:	3954
Flavorite Brew:	A & W in a frosted mug
Status:	Offline

Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 16:53

Quote

Does the Motor run durring Spin ?

____________________
RegUS_PatOff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAY2LsKVEw

my “Easter Seals Walk With Me” video production http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EBiLyYXMiA

After leaving this Earth "Do you want the Smoking or Non-Smoking section ?"

semirg54
Apprentice Appliantologist

Joined:	Tue Oct 7th, 2008
Location:
Posts:	13
Flavorite Brew:	coors light
Status:	Offline

Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 16:56

Quote

Yes it does. Silver disk on top of gearcase spins as well. I guess this is the clutch enclosure.

mcgill72143
Master Appliantologist

Joined:	Mon Oct 6th, 2008
Location:	Searcy, Arkansas USA
Posts:	14
Flavorite Brew:	ice water
Status:	Offline

Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 20:47

Quote

if the silver disk (clutch) is spinning then the motor coupling is still good...sounds like a bad trans to me...maybe someone can be of more help to give you links on here since this is my first post...

NCSU_laundry_tech
Sublime Master of Appliantology

Joined:	Mon Aug 18th, 2008
Location:	Raleigh, North Carolina USA
Posts:	223
Flavorite Brew:	The one in my hand
Status:	Offline

Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 20:48

Quote

problem could be the clutch itself or the basket drive. wont know until you take the gearcase out. you do need to remove the agitator bolt first. if there is a lot of oil on clutch may want to replace gearcase too

____________________
To alcohol! The cause of... and solution to... all of life's problems.

Doc Watson - Shady Grove: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-kaG1NuLZM

riding my dirtbike in clayton NC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnCmY0vzmYM

semirg54
Apprentice Appliantologist

Joined:	Tue Oct 7th, 2008
Location:
Posts:	13
Flavorite Brew:	coors light
Status:	Offline

Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 23:11

Quote

i have gearcase off. no oil leaks. how do i know if clutch is bad?

mcgill72143
Master Appliantologist

Joined:	Mon Oct 6th, 2008
Location:	Searcy, Arkansas USA
Posts:	14
Flavorite Brew:	ice water
Status:	Offline

Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 00:21

Quote

if the clutch pads are all there, not worn really bad and none missing then its sounding more and more like a bad gearcase ...check the basket drive on the bottom of the brake ..its where you slid the gearcase shaft out...its a plastic arm that disengages the brake and locks into the clutch to drive the basket...if it looks ok and not broke then my money is on the gearcase...maybe someone will have a pic for you ...trying to help but im new to this forum sorry....

Last edited on Wed Oct 8th, 2008 00:22 by mcgill72143

NCSU_laundry_tech
Sublime Master of Appliantology

Joined:	Mon Aug 18th, 2008
Location:	Raleigh, North Carolina USA
Posts:	223
Flavorite Brew:	The one in my hand
Status:	Offline

Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 00:38

Quote

^the job of the geargase is to spin the clutch which it is doing.

if the basket drive is looks ok another possibility is the drive block.

mcgill72143
Master Appliantologist

Joined:	Mon Oct 6th, 2008
Location:	Searcy, Arkansas USA
Posts:	14
Flavorite Brew:	ice water
Status:	Offline

Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 01:13

Quote

heres a link that may answer some of your questions...

Mad Mac
Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology

Joined:	Wed Mar 30th, 2005
Location:	Moorpark (via Motherwell, Scotland), California USA
Posts:	1412
Flavorite Brew:	Newcastle Brown Ale
Status:	Offline

Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 04:09

Quote

Nobody suggested the drive block yet? I commend to you the wisdom of the beautiful Ms. Pegi at

http://applianceguru.com/forum2/13293.html

____________________
Mad Mac....Pray to God he's out there....somewhere.

semirg54
Apprentice Appliantologist

Joined:	Tue Oct 7th, 2008
Location:
Posts:	13
Flavorite Brew:	coors light
Status:	Offline

Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 16:32

Quote

Can someone explain how the clutch, basket driver, and basket block function. If the the clutch disk (silver case above gearcase) spins and the clutch lining is not spinning, than the basket would not spin. Correct. Doesn't the driver (white device above clutch with arm that is angled down into clutch area) interlock with the clutch liner?

Thanks

RegUS_PatOff
Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology

Joined:	Sat Sep 24th, 2005
Location:	Milwaukee, Wisconsin USA
Posts:	3954
Flavorite Brew:	A & W in a frosted mug
Status:	Offline

Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 17:42

Quote

AUTOMATIC WASHER STUDY COURSE (DIRECT DRIVE MODELS) Module 4 • MECHANICAL COMPONENTS

url=https://secured.whirlpool.com/Service/SrvTechAdm.nsf/2cd44500d572193285256a45004fd9d6/2550f737b3129b0c85256b0600504738/$FILE/787772%20%234.pdf

Last edited on Thu Oct 9th, 2008 12:21 by RegUS_PatOff

K,man
Master Appliantologist

Joined:	Sat Mar 29th, 2008
Location:
Posts:	105
Flavorite Brew:	diet coke
Status:	Offline

Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 04:07

Quote

the clutch spins, the edges on the pad band inside the clutch engage the brake release arm [the white dude on the bottom of the basket drive] that releases the brake and spins the basket drive, if the basket is proberlyattached [drive block] the the basket spins..rarely the white dude thingy gets broken chek that also

semirg54
Apprentice Appliantologist

Joined:	Tue Oct 7th, 2008
Location:
Posts:	13
Flavorite Brew:	coors light
Status:	Offline

Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 11:57

Quote

the white pads on the clutch lining are a little worn. but i don't think its the clutch. there are black particles all over the top of the gear case. i noticed that most of the parts associated with the brake are black. are there any black parts in brake assembly that are plastic that fail? i have pictures of the clutch and top of gear case unfortnately they are too big for this site to attach.

RegUS_PatOff
Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology

Joined:	Sat Sep 24th, 2005
Location:	Milwaukee, Wisconsin USA
Posts:	3954
Flavorite Brew:	A & W in a frosted mug
Status:	Offline

Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 12:03

Quote

If you could reduce the picture size to less than 200k, using MS Paint, Image, Strech/Skew %

semirg54
Apprentice Appliantologist

Joined:	Tue Oct 7th, 2008
Location:
Posts:	13
Flavorite Brew:	coors light
Status:	Offline

Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 12:23

Quote

that worked. thanks. can i attach more than 1 picture per reply.

NCSU_laundry_tech
Sublime Master of Appliantology

Joined:	Mon Aug 18th, 2008
Location:	Raleigh, North Carolina USA
Posts:	223
Flavorite Brew:	The one in my hand
Status:	Offline

Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 12:36

Quote

take your hand and try to rotate the white plastic piece on the basket drive counter clockwise. this should release the brake and rotate the basket drive. if it does then its the clutch assuming you drive block is ok.

sometimes a sock will get between the basket and tub and not allow it to spin

semirg54
Apprentice Appliantologist

Joined:	Tue Oct 7th, 2008
Location:
Posts:	13
Flavorite Brew:	coors light
Status:	Offline

Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 13:08

Quote

Here is a picture of the gear case notice the black particles on top. Is this normal?

Attachment: Clutch Disc 1.JPG (Downloaded 16 times)

semirg54
Apprentice Appliantologist

Joined:	Tue Oct 7th, 2008
Location:
Posts:	13
Flavorite Brew:	coors light
Status:	Offline

Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 13:11

Quote

Here is a picture of brake assembly showing the driver. Notice the oil residue on the base assembly leg. Is this normal? There were no oil drips on the floor under the washer. The gear case seemed fine. No oil leaking. Still wonder wear the oil on the leg???????

Attachment: Driver 1.JPG (Downloaded 17 times)

semirg54
Apprentice Appliantologist

Joined:	Tue Oct 7th, 2008
Location:
Posts:	13
Flavorite Brew:	coors light
Status:	Offline

Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 13:13

Quote

Finally, here is a picture of the clutch lining. Notice the pad to right of the spring. It is worn. Also the pad opposite the spring at about 11 oclock is worn.

Attachment: Clutch Liner 1.JPG (Downloaded 17 times)

Current time is 18:11

Page: 1 2

The Samurai Appliance Repair Forums > Do-It-Yourself Appliance Repair Help > The Laundry Appliance Repair Forum > Kenmore Top Load Direct Drive Washer - 4 1/2 years old

Use the Search, Lurch!
We have a bizillion pages of specific appliance repair questions and answers here just aching for the furtive caress of your engorged eyeballs. Use this search box to find ‘em.

Find Parts Fast!
Search by part number or model number for best results.
If you don't know your model number - try searching by appliance type, brand or part type.

Appliance FAQs | Find Appliance Parts | Newsletter | Beer Fund | Home

Your Sometimes-Lucid Host:

"If I can't help you fix your appliance and make you 100% satisfied, I will come to your home and slice open my belly, spilling my steaming entrails onto your floor."