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| Maytag SE1000 dryer, clicks, but won't run | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 8th, 2007 07:09 pm |
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eidling Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Sometime ago "Trying to Help" was very generous with his time and helped me fix our washer. It included replacing the electronic control panel and possibly one of the relays. All has been well since then, except the dryer has been noisy - it almost sounded like a scraping sound and it seemed more noisy than it used to be. I tried an ounce of prevention by trying to take the dryer apart enough to get to the dryer's guts, but couldn't figure out how, so I did nothing. Today it just stopped in the middle of a load. All the controls still light up and it clicks as if it wants to start spinning but it doesn't. The push button for the dryer door seems fine. And I have finally figured out how to get the front panel off, so I can see the belt is okay. I can manually turn the drum from inside, but it sounds kind of "clicky" when turned in one direction. I'm not too swift with things like checking continuity unless I'm carefully walked through, but would really appreciate help with this! Could it (please!) be something as simple as a relay? If not, what? Thanks! Last edited on Sun Apr 8th, 2007 07:50 pm by eidling |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 10:07 am |
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man Fermented Grand Master of Appliantology 
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This page will help you with dryer disassembly. Use the section for the Maytag dryer. Even though yours is a stacker, it disassembles like the stand alone unit. You'll need to remove the bulkhead (front drum support panel) and check the front glides. Also check the blower wheel for obstructions and the rear drum rollers.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 9th, 2007 11:23 am |
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eidling Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Thank you master! I did manage to take the thing apart. Still don't know why it is having this problem, but thankfully, "Trying to Help" has re-contacted me and I am hoping his wisdom will again save the day!
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25th, 2007 12:49 pm |
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eidling Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Lord high fermented grand master - With the help of the honorable “Trying To Help”, our dryer (Maytag SE 1000) is working again! Many thanks to “Trying to Help” for being so generous with his time and expertise! I am hoping he will eventually agree to accept my humble offering of NY Deli SamuRYE bread as a token of my appreciation. Unfortunately, the dryer is still verrrry noisy. I have replaced the blower wheel, but that didn’t solve the problem. Based on what I’ve read online, if it was the drum support wheels, I would hear squeaking, but it is more like a rhythmic clunking (and a LOUD ONE!). If that is correct, is it most likely the drum glides, and if so, how do I replace them, what part do I need, etc. I’m not an expert (that should be clear by now!), but the belt feels tight to me, so I assume that's not an issue... Thanks in advance to anyone who can advise me on this! If need be, I will even record the sound and e-mail it as an mp3 file if that will help with the diagnosis…
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25th, 2007 05:38 pm |
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Poobah Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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not all the time while it is usual that the drum rollers will squeak if they get gummed up , they can also get flat spots on them over time which will cause a thumping noise....also check the groove that the wheels are riding in and make sure there is no debris (leftover rubber-?) that the wheel is running over causing the excessive thump...part #9 on this breakdown will be the glides there should be 2 (blue in color if I remember correctly) and they will be riveted down...if these are missing you will have to replace them they usually keep the tub from running smooth though when bad .....good luck
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25th, 2007 11:50 pm |
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Trying to help Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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Sorry for no response and lack of sight input, I have been traveling spreading the word of Appliance Repair (and this web site) to all that will listen for the last 3 weeks. If the roller is Wollered (learned that down here) then it will make a pretty loud noise as well. The shaft fits through the bearing of the roller, it should be a tight fit. IF it has been wearin gfor a while, it will be wollered out to the point it could be as loud as a blower with it flapping all around. When I am home for at least 3 days in a row I will send my address to collect my Rye!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26th, 2007 12:09 am |
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Trying to help Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Also, accepting the Rye Bread could cause me to loose my amateur status. With the possibility of the Olympics using Appliance Electrical Diagnostics as an Olympic event in the future could make this a very tough decision!  If the Corned Beef at the Deli down here is lean, I might have to accept the Rye!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26th, 2007 12:11 am |
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eidling Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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If I thought the corned beef would survive the trip, I'd gladly include it!!
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 01:01 pm |
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eidling Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Thank you exalted one! I have the good (?) fortune of being home today to take care of my sick daughter and am also hoping to take care of my sick dryer, which is now taken apart. I am attaching some photos of the glides and some scrapes near them, which I hope will enable you to confirm the glides are the problems. If it's the glides, it looks to me like this is the part I need: http://www.repairclinic.com/0081.asp?RccPartID=1309 any other quick fixes, like sanding it down, using spray lubricant, or???? thanks again and may all your teas be iced! Attachment: glides and scrapes.doc (Downloaded 10 times) Last edited on Fri Apr 27th, 2007 02:15 pm by eidling |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 05:09 pm |
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Poobah Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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First I Pray for your daughters speedy recovery........those glides are worn but not completely worn out I've seen alot worse, but with that being said I would probably change them because their not that expensive, while your down that far take a picture of the drum rollers and post it......
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 05:31 pm |
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eidling Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Thanks, Poobah - I already put the machine back together because we need to use it and I ordered the glides. Never removed or installed rivets before, but there's always a first time. I guess the next time I've got it apart I can photograph the drum rollers. I didn't feel any obvious flat spots and they seemed tight on their axle (or whatever it's called). Anyhoo - I will photograph them as best as I can. I am now so used to taking the thing apart, it's no big deal.... thanks again, Michael
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 05:53 pm |
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Poobah Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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yeah this dryer isn't hard after you do it a couple times....as far as the rivets go a drill bit and cordless drill will let you get em out easily......then you will need a rivet gun to install the new ones with.......I've seen these rollers wear over the years which would let the drum ride alittle lower than normal, although I was expecting to see the glides gone and the tub riding on either the rivets or metal.......also make sure the idler isn't worn out and clunking on the arm......good luck
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 07:35 pm |
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eidling Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Poobah - Please explain the idler to me - I know nothing about it. Thanks again!
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 07:48 pm |
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Pegi Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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The idler pully/assembly, the wheel that the belt goes around to keep tension on the belt located down by the motor...
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 08:32 pm |
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eidling Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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if the belt is tight, can I assume the idler is okay? Also, should we move this to private messages, or is it okay to keep communicating this way? thanks
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 09:31 pm |
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Poobah Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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we should be ok........we're discussing dryer issues, someone down the road may need the info were hashing around..yes if the idler turns smooth and doesn't wobble and the belt is tight then it should be ok....I just went back over everything there is in this dryer and we've / you've covered it all.....after recieving the glides put em in and hopefully this will cure the problem.if not check back in and we'll go again......good luck
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 10:28 pm |
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Trying to help Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Take a real good look at the rollers. The glides look like they have been in use for 20 years (worn) but worn glides give a distinctive scraping sound that gets worse when clothes are in the unit. Hearty loud banging or rumbling sounds are usually bad blower wheels (which you already replaced) or rollers that have been ignored and allowed to wear out the bearing and if let go long enough, wear out the shaft they ride on. Both the rollers and the idler pulley are round rollers that ride on shafts. There should be no or at least very little play between the shaft and the bearing (center of the device, whether it is the roller or the pulley). Post a shot of the rollers, again, the shaft that they ride on should fit tightly to the center bearing of the roller, it should not be sloppy or loose.
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| Posted: Sat May 5th, 2007 08:54 pm |
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eidling Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Honorable ones - I have enjoyed my first riveting experience, but am sorry to report that , as I think we all suspected, the drum glides were not the cause of the noise. I felt almost no play in the drum rollers. The rollers felt a bit sticky. I don't know if that's typical or a symptom of something. I'm attaching photos of the drum rollers and await your sage advice, mg Attachment: drum rollers.doc (Downloaded 7 times)
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| Posted: Sat May 5th, 2007 10:41 pm |
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Poobah Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Shoot dem rollers with just a touch of lubricant (PB Blaster is my choice) and spin em...they look ok from the pics.but they should turn pretty freely and not stick at all.I'm sitting here acking my brain trying to think of what we've missed...... 1) new blower wheel (was it OEM or aftermarket) I've seen the aftermarket spin the flat side out and round the hole pretty quickly.did you put both clips back on the shaft after replacing the wheel squeeze clip around it and c clip to hold it on the end.......If I remember right there is a flat washer that is supposed to be behind the wheel to keep it from going back and rubbing the housing was it there, possibly the wheel could be pushed to far back.was the blower you put on a part # 303836....the otherone is bigger and I don't think it would go in the hole but....I'm stretching here 2) new glides nuff said it was doing it before and that didn't help 3)rollers look ok but as said before lubricate just for the sake of.....also check the groove on the tub and make sure nothing is in there that the rollers could be riding over and thumping on...... 4) turn the idler by hand and make sure it's not loose on the shaft 5)turn the blower by hand and check run it with the front off and listen real close and see if you can pinpoint whereit's coming from......good luck...let us know
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| Posted: Sat May 5th, 2007 11:01 pm |
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eidling Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Shoot dem rollers with just a touch of lubricant (PB Blaster is my choice) and spin em...they look ok from the pics.but they should turn pretty freely and not stick at all.I'm sitting here acking my brain trying to think of what we've missed...... lubricate the center or the part that touches the drum? I assume the center. Not familiar with PB Blaster, but have silicone spray and some sewing machine oil I use on turntables. By the way, when I wrote they felt sticky, I meant the outer surfaces of the rollers, the part that makes contact with the drum. 1) new blower wheel (was it OEM or aftermarket) I've seen the aftermarket spin the flat side out and round the hole pretty quickly.did you put both clips back on the shaft after replacing the wheel squeeze clip around it and c clip to hold it on the end.......If I remember right there is a flat washer that is supposed to be behind the wheel to keep it from going back and rubbing the housing was it there, possibly the wheel could be pushed to far back.was the blower you put on a part # 303836....the otherone is bigger and I don't think it would go in the hole but....I'm stretching here The blower wheel assembly was Item # 1245880 at repairclinic.com. I can tell you the one that was originally in it was fine, but I left the new one in rather than remove it. 2) new glides nuff said it was doing it before and that didn't help 3)rollers look ok but as said before lubricate just for the sake of.....also check the groove on the tub and make sure nothing is in there that the rollers could be riding over and thumping on...... Ok, will do when I get the time to take it apart again 4) turn the idler by hand and make sure it's not loose on the shaft I'm still not sure I get where the idler is or what it looks like, but will check again. If you have a image of it, that would help me a lot. 5)turn the blower by hand and check I'm pretty sure I've done that, but will do it again run it with the front off and listen real close and see if you can pinpoint whereit's coming from......good luck...let us know Again, I have tried that, but will try it again next time I've got the thing apart. Thanks for sticking with me on this and for all your help!! Last edited on Sat May 5th, 2007 11:07 pm by eidling |
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