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 Posted: Sat Jun 4th, 2005 12:28 am
   
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Sounds like your heating element has grounded itself to the dryer, and will never shut off till you turn the dryer off or unplug it.   UNPLUG THIS DRYER NOW, because if this has happened the whole dryer is getting 240 volts fed to it, case and all...



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 Posted: Sat Jun 4th, 2005 04:03 am
   
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usually the element broke and one end is touching the canister or the bracket, you will have to look at the element to see if the coil is touching something.  would need model number to see where it is located for sure but sounds like it is on the back.  remove the rear panel and the element is on th right side inside the silver canister

 

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 Posted: Sat Jun 4th, 2005 04:39 am
   
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Yes, if you did not remove the canister to replace the element the bracket would have bent putting the element in.  Be sure to remove the canister from the dryer to replace the element.



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Something metal could have also gotten into the canister and is touching the element like a bobby pin or something, thru the air holes in the drum.



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There is a clip at the top of the canister that attaches to  the plenum with a screw.  Remove the screw and clip, pull the top of the canister toward you about an inch then lift it up off of the 2 L brackets.  Then flip it over onto your lap, remove the screw holding the element in the canister and slide it out and take a look at it.  When putting it back in, there are 2 slots on the canister that go onto the 2 L brackets, then be sure to push the whole assy back into the recess of the back panel.  Be sure to reattach the clip or the canister will fall back and all of the heat will to up into the console, melting all of the wires.   Now, that would not be a pretty sight.......;)



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That is the panel the drum rotates around inside of the dryer and the same metal panel all of the goodies mount to on the back of the dryer after the rear metal cover is removed.



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I think a lot of people have taken a weekend to spend with their families. As you know everyone does this for free just to help everyone that they can.
So be patient if you dont receive a quick reply.
I can tell you what I know on this but Pegi will know much more.
From what you just described the elemnet is bad and needs to be replaced. Yes that will cause it to get too hot too.
The terminals on the element are a tiny bit larger than the ones that will go to the thermostats. So look closely at them and they can and should only go one way. Take your time , put on your glasses and you will see the difference is size of the terminals.

Remember that you are dealing with 240 volts so be very careful as to what you are doing.

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DonnaDoula wrote: I removed the canister and heating element.  Inside I found that two sections of the heating element (curly wire) were bent and touching other sections of the element.  Would that be a probable cause for something metal inside the canister touching something it was not supposed to...making it run extra hot? 



 

Sounds like Pegi led you to the problem.  You need to replace the heating element assembly




 
Do you have a wiring schematic?  There are two red wires coming off the heating element.  One is connected to a 2nd red wire attached w/a plastic cap and leading to the other wires that are inside the dryer.  The 3rd red wire--the 2nd one coming off the heating element is exposed.  There is a 4th red wire w/a plastic cap on the end of it.  There are no other wires attached to this 2nd plastic cap (wire nut).  Should the exposed red wire be attached to the 4th red wire?

YOU have the schematic. It's in your dryer.  Do you know how to read it?  You shouldn't need it as long as you're careful to mark what wires go where. 

 
I'm concerned about some bubbles on the outside of one of the red wires.  Sounds like it got too hot?

You should cut this wire back to a good part and splice in good wires as needed.  If you don't know how to do this, there are numerous books available on home wiring, even DVDs that can help you.

http://fixitnow.com/2005/01/appliance-repair-revelation-secrets-of.htm

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Well, back after diving for cover what with the toronado warning...:shock:  Anyway, the broken curly coils were touching somehing they should not have before you pulled it out of that canister, either the canister or the bracket it was strung in.  If you did not remove the canister 2 years ago, this caused this problem now.  Your element was causing the heat to never shut off, all of your safeties were by-passed, a very dangerous situation.  You are lucky this dryer did not catch on fire.  Replace the element and the damaged wiring and you will be good to go.  The Samuari showed you what you need to order here....;)



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Hey, Pegi, glad to see you cheated death another time!  :bananadance:



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I very easily straightened out the curly wire on the heating element so that none of the sections are touching any of the other sections. It looks nice and straight like the one in the picture. Is it ok to still use?

NO - DO NOT USE THIS ELEMENT. Many things I would say okay what the heck give it a shot. But not this. Its has been stretched out and this being bad is far worse than say just a belt or something. FIRE!!! You already have it disassmembled and ready to go. A couple of clicks right here, Order it from here....done! Have it in a day or two and do this right so the chance of the entire dryer burning up is ommited.

Last edited on Sun Jun 5th, 2005 05:46 am by GLC



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