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| Posted: Wed Jan 17th, 2007 09:44 pm |
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maryloucb Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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After replacing the brushes I ran a few loads and it seemed to have some issues with draining. It drains, but not all the way, and then it won't spin. If I put it back on the drain cycle it drains more fully and then it spins just fine. I'm guessing that this is a pump issue, or else maybe an obstruction in the outlet hose? Any suggestions?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 18th, 2007 01:42 am |
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man Fermented Grand Master of Appliantology 
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I presume you have checked the pump cleanout? (I had to ask.) OK, then here's what I would do. First, I'd just set it pump out and then check the discharge stream. If it's weak and anemic, then I see why it's not pumping out all the way. This would also tell me that the electrical control circuitry for the pump is working fine. Additionally, it tells me that the pump *motor* is fine, both electrically and mechanically, and is not involved in the problem. The pump *impeller*, however, is involved in the problem, either as a cause or an effect. It's important to distinguish which because it's the difference between buying a whole new pump (because you can't replace the impeller separately from the motor-- it's a unit kind of a deal) at significant cost (~$80?) or merely removing a wayward pair off panties. When you can snatch these pebbles from my hand, Grasshoppah, then it is time for you to leave.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11th, 2007 11:54 am |
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auntbeatch Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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* Asko W600 Brushes Kicked * Hello all. This forum has given me most of the answers I need, but I wanted to confirm a couple things and inquire as to whether someone could share a service manual.... Heres the story, leaving aside rantings about how the W600, and partner dryer have been putting a hurt on my serenity: * Washer had been making a lot of noise during spin/agitate cycles--sort of an agonized whirring at speed, with much louder difficult-to-describe sounds when changing directions during agitate. * (Un-?) related frequent occurence of washing ending at "C" ("Customer-Fixable Problem"). Despite ending at "C," I could find nothing really wrong with the clothes--they seem like they were washed properly. * I clean the pin trap pretty regularly, and occaisionally find coin or two, but cannot connect cleaning the trap to making the "C" go away. The "C" seems random. * Got an "S" ("Service Tech Required") yesterday. Washer will not spin or agitate, empty or full, but the pump seems to be working fine--it expells water. The tank fills, too, as evidenced by the soaking wet pile of wash I had to carry to the laundromat. * I took the back off and pulled the moter. Belt is fine, drum makes no noise with belt removed. Motor is loud (when spun by hand) with brushes connected; quieter but not silent with brushes removed. The brushes are bad--picture attached. Questions
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11th, 2007 12:09 pm |
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man Fermented Grand Master of Appliantology
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RepairClinic does carry the brushes; you can get 'em ratcheer. Though, if that's a picture of your current brushes, they don't look very worn. But I've seen the brushes fail in other ways and the holsters themselves can fail. The motor won't be absolutely quiet w/o the brushes. The most common failure with these motors is with worn brushes. I don't think I've ever seen one of these motors fail for some other reason, though I make no claims that my experience, vast and awesome as as it is, constitutes a comprehensive catalogue of component failure. You're pretty safe replacing the brushes. If, by some perverse event, it turns out there's something else wrong with the motor, you can return the brushes for a refund, less shipping. Sent a copy of the service manual to your gmail account. Last edited on Mon Jun 11th, 2007 12:11 pm by Samurai Appliance Repair Man ____________________ To ask a question, use our new forums==> http://appliantology.org 365-Day No-Hassle Return Policy on all parts purchased through this site, even electrical parts that have been installed! |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11th, 2007 03:34 pm |
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auntbeatch Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Much gratitude for the guidance and the manual. I sent you an email regarding the manual: I was hoping that someone might have a service tech's manual for the w600.... Maybe I'm imagining something that doesn't exist, but I thought there might be a manual that had schematics, etc. After reading The Samurai's post, I re-fitted my brushes to confirm bad contact. The brush pictured on the right in the above photo has that pin-like portion sticking out, which causes the larger surface of the brush to be held about 3/32" away from direct contact with the rotor. The pin thing does make contact. The brush on the other side makes fine contact. Does a second view of the brush photo (and the pin thing sticking out) make you think they could have been the problem? I've already ordered a pair (by clicking your link) from RepairClinic for 2nd day delivery. Many thanks.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11th, 2007 04:35 pm |
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auntbeatch Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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auntbeatch wrote: I was hoping that someone might have a service tech's manual for the w600.... Samurai, This site, and your service are absolutely smokin'. I don't have the subtlety to express my enthusiasm in any other language than peasant's English. Repair calls in my area mean several hundred dollars minimum, and I have no relationships or recommendations so it would be a gamble. Because my laundry space (6th floor condo) is 26-1/2" wide, my replacement options are very limited. Wanting to avoid top-loading stacked units for efficiency, aesthetic, quality, and resale reasons, I was looking at a $2000 investment in a miele or a bosch or something. If the replacement brushes solve the problem, this site has saved me $1930. My gal says we should go out to dinner, but I told her we'll have to do some wash first. Nick Last edited on Mon Jun 11th, 2007 04:36 pm by auntbeatch |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12th, 2007 07:34 am |
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Budget Appliance Repair Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man wrote:RepairClinic does carry the brushes; you can get 'em ratcheer. Though, if that's a picture of your current brushes, they don't look very worn. Maybe you should take a second look at that picture of bad brushes. They are for sure bad, they only stick out at most maybe 1/4" to 1/2", the new ones stick out like 1" to 1 1/2" when new. And as "Auntbeatch" said, look at the internal button that has popped thru the front of the brush!!!!
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| Posted: Tue Jun 12th, 2007 07:13 pm |
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Keinokuorma Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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Even if the motor still worked with that little brushes left, I would already be looking for spares.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2007 09:57 am |
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man Fermented Grand Master of Appliantology
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I know the brushes are supposed to be longer than what's what's shown, but I what I couldn't tell was how much was left in the holster. The button was a giveaway, though-- I was just seeing who was paying attention. Good work, both of you! 
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2007 12:57 pm |
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auntbeatch Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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New brushes came from RepairClinic this morning, and I've installed them. Probably can't test until I finish the work I'm doing in the tiny closet where the washer & drier squeeze in. Comparison pic below. Attachment: New vs Old Brushes.JPG (Downloaded 67 times)
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2007 01:58 pm |
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Keinokuorma Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man wrote: what I couldn't tell was how much was left in the holster. LOL,  as the brushes had been liberated from the depressing presence of the commutator, what was sticking out was all that the spring could push out... of course if the spring had gone flat, there could have been a considerable length inside the holster still...
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13th, 2007 09:39 pm |
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man Fermented Grand Master of Appliantology
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Ahh, but aren't we ASSuming an awful bit much from his pic, Master Keino? For example, the pic only showed the front half of the brushes. Wasn't it reasonable for me to ASSume that he had sawed off the back half and was holding the rest of the brush back? Yeah, uh huh, BOOYAH! Who's y'daddy?   No? Oh, what the hell, it was worth a shot. 
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14th, 2007 05:58 am |
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Keinokuorma Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Doh, ya got me.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26th, 2009 03:47 am |
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ferglaw Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Thanks, guys! This happened to my ten year old (eleven?) Asko W620 - new brushes worked like a charm, mine looked exactly like photos I found on this site. One issue was the left motor bolt and nut were frozen or something. A quick trip to the hardware store for a large/long handled socket wrench to rip that sucker loose - the satisfaction was worth the extra expense. Also, keeping the motor at the right location while tightening the nut required a short stack of books under the motor.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 30th, 2010 04:05 am |
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dmp614 Merit Apprentice Appliantologist
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Probably a stupid question, but what's that expression? I know there are 2 brushes in the washer. But they're sold individually, right? So I need to order 2 of these: http://www.repairclinic.com/SSPartDetail.aspx?PartID=764414&PPStack=1 Thanks!
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| Posted: Thu Sep 30th, 2010 06:11 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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dmp614 wrote: ... So I need to order 2 of these ... or a reasonable facsimile thereof ...  are those the correct Brushes ? do you have the Ceset Motor or the FHP Motor ? let me know 
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| Posted: Thu Sep 30th, 2010 12:21 pm |
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dmp614 Merit Apprentice Appliantologist
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Uh... Made a bad assumption based on previous posts that there was only one possible brush. How do I determine which motor I have?
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| Posted: Thu Sep 30th, 2010 01:24 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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dmp614 wrote: How do I determine which motor I have? I don't know which Model / Years uses which Motor. It should have a Name Sticker on the Motor
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| Posted: Thu Sep 30th, 2010 01:31 pm |
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dmp614 Merit Apprentice Appliantologist
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Thank you! I actually just removed the front panel of the washer (far easier than expected) so I could actually see the brushes. Clearly Ceset upon inspection. Phew!
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| Posted: Thu Sep 30th, 2010 02:25 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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you could buy then from some place in Australia for $ 80 /set, but they don't ship to the U.S. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140359576980 OR you could buy them ftom some place in the U.K. for $ 20 /set shipped to the U.S. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220675226708 compare the pictures / descriptions .. If we saved you Beer $$ today, please make a donation to our beer fund by clicking the link below to help keep this site going. http://fixitnow.com/beerfund.htm
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