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| Posted: Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 03:21 pm |
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papollonia Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Guys: Let me perform those checks and get back to you... Should be able to get to it today sometime... Thanks so much for all the help on this issue..
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| Posted: Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 03:59 pm |
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Bobice Sublime Master of Appliantology
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I have confidence in you. 
____________________ Retired US Army Refrigeration Specialist / NYC Board of Education HVAC/R (Retired) 40 Years HVAC/R service, sales,installations. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 06:16 pm |
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papollonia Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Bobice: Thank you so much, you don't know how much I appreciate that.. For some reason this has got me baffled... I still have not done any tests... Once i do i will post the results
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| Posted: Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 07:37 pm |
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Bobice Sublime Master of Appliantology
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It is a machine which man made. Therefore a man can fix it.
____________________ Retired US Army Refrigeration Specialist / NYC Board of Education HVAC/R (Retired) 40 Years HVAC/R service, sales,installations. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 09:11 pm |
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papollonia Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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yes you are correct!!! Still have not had a change to do anything yet,, hope to do something later on..... or First thing WeD.. Mornign
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| Posted: Tue Feb 3rd, 2009 09:28 pm |
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Bobice Sublime Master of Appliantology
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Any additional help, I am right here. I got your back.
____________________ Retired US Army Refrigeration Specialist / NYC Board of Education HVAC/R (Retired) 40 Years HVAC/R service, sales,installations. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 4th, 2009 06:17 pm |
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67th Post |
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papollonia Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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hvacdrd wrote: The fact that you can control the fan from the thermostat indicates the 24V transformer survived the sparks & smoke. Let's move to the thermostat, what are we working with? You can make the following checks at the unit with your meter set to VAC on a scale above 25VAC. With the thermostat set to heat and temp set above room temp test from terminal R to W - if you show 24VAC, we have a thermostat problem.Ok I am standing in front of the t-stat: I see G, RC,RH,Y,W terminals... You mentioned a ' C '... There is no ' C '.. So I set (acv) my Multi meter up and tested across ' RH ' and ' W '... I am reading ranging from 1.5 to 2.6.. The battery in the meter is very old.. Is that correct????
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| Posted: Wed Feb 4th, 2009 06:28 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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papollonia wrote: ... RH to W should read about 0v AC when Thermostat is adjusted to Heat ON RH to W should read about 24vAC when adjusted to Heat OFF
____________________ RegUS_PatOff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAY2LsKVEw my video production: “Easter Seals Walk With Me” (also in HQ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EBiLyYXMiA Upon leaving this Earth "Do you want the Smoking or Non-Smoking section ?" |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 4th, 2009 07:06 pm |
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Bobice Sublime Master of Appliantology
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papollonia wrote: hvacdrd wrote:The fact that you can control the fan from the thermostat indicates the 24V transformer survived the sparks & smoke. Let's move to the thermostat, what are we working with? You can make the following checks at the unit with your meter set to VAC on a scale above 25VAC. With the thermostat set to heat and temp set above room temp test from terminal R to W - if you show 24VAC, we have a thermostat problem.Ok I am standing in front of the t-stat:
____________________ Retired US Army Refrigeration Specialist / NYC Board of Education HVAC/R (Retired) 40 Years HVAC/R service, sales,installations. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 4th, 2009 09:51 pm |
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70th Post |
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papollonia Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Bobice wrote: papollonia wrote:hvacdrd wrote:The t-stat is a White-Rodgers, but i will look at the honeywell pdf again..The fact that you can control the fan from the thermostat indicates the 24V transformer survived the sparks & smoke. Let's move to the thermostat, what are we working with? You can make the following checks at the unit with your meter set to VAC on a scale above 25VAC. With the thermostat set to heat and temp set above room temp test from terminal R to W - if you show 24VAC, we have a thermostat problem.Ok I am standing in front of the t-stat:
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| Posted: Wed Feb 4th, 2009 09:52 pm |
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papollonia Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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RegUS_PatOff: Thanks for the reply.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 4th, 2009 10:33 pm |
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Bobice Sublime Master of Appliantology
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http://www.white-rodgers.com/wrdhom/pdfs/06_Cat_pages/Cat_06_pg0191.pdf
____________________ Retired US Army Refrigeration Specialist / NYC Board of Education HVAC/R (Retired) 40 Years HVAC/R service, sales,installations. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 5th, 2009 12:26 am |
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papollonia Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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BobIce: Here is mine.... White-rodgers 1F56-301 http://www.white-rodgers.com/wrdhom/pdfs/instruction_sheets/0037-6497.pdf
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| Posted: Thu Feb 5th, 2009 12:15 pm |
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Bobice Sublime Master of Appliantology
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Reading the Carrier Diagram, no wonder you are messed up.  They have Red to Rc-Rh ( Power ), Black to B ( Fan ), Blue to Y ( Cool ) , Orange to W (heat) on their thermostat sub base. Yours is standard, so make sure you have the Black lead or Green lead depending if whoever installed your unit used the standard thermostat colors to G on your sub-base. B on your sub-base is for something entirely different. 
____________________ Retired US Army Refrigeration Specialist / NYC Board of Education HVAC/R (Retired) 40 Years HVAC/R service, sales,installations. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 5th, 2009 12:59 pm |
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papollonia Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Good, So I am not going insane here!!!!! Ok, I am home most of the day today, It's on my To-Do list for today......
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| Posted: Fri Feb 6th, 2009 06:26 pm |
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papollonia Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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I have no idea why I can not figure this out. But here are pictures of my T-Stat. I am going to borrow another multi meter.. I think there is something wrong with mine Cover off:  
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| Posted: Fri Feb 6th, 2009 07:47 pm |
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Bobice Sublime Master of Appliantology
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papolloniapapolloniapapolloniapapolloniapapolloniapapollonia wrote: I have no idea why I can not figure this out.Rh to W 24 Volts with switch in off position. Good Thermostat Sub-base, With switch to heat Bad Sub-base. Jumper Rh to W and leave for a few minutes, you should have heat. By the way the anticipator (metal arrow) should be set the ampre rating on the gas valve, otherwise it will not open Last edited on Fri Feb 6th, 2009 07:53 pm by Bobice ____________________ Retired US Army Refrigeration Specialist / NYC Board of Education HVAC/R (Retired) 40 Years HVAC/R service, sales,installations. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 6th, 2009 07:59 pm |
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Bobice Sublime Master of Appliantology
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Oh for Pete's sake, your anticipator is set at point 25  , set it for point SIX
____________________ Retired US Army Refrigeration Specialist / NYC Board of Education HVAC/R (Retired) 40 Years HVAC/R service, sales,installations. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 6th, 2009 09:15 pm |
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papollonia Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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OH MY!!!!!!!!!! Do I feel like a############# I noticed that the wire on the anticipator is broken. You can see it in the picture. Maybe that is what sparked.. I would think that could be a issue? Think it is time for a new t-stat?
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| Posted: Fri Feb 6th, 2009 09:36 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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papollonia wrote: ... I noticed that the wire on the anticipator is broken. YES, unless you can connect that broken wire to the .25 stud, but may not be able to solder that type of wire. T-stats are cheap enough ...
____________________ RegUS_PatOff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAY2LsKVEw my video production: “Easter Seals Walk With Me” (also in HQ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EBiLyYXMiA Upon leaving this Earth "Do you want the Smoking or Non-Smoking section ?" |
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