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| Posted: Fri Oct 29th, 2010 05:52 pm |
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john727 Grasshopper
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Anyone have a repair manual for this ice machine? Thanks!
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| Posted: Fri Oct 29th, 2010 07:18 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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Wiring Diagram For service manuals and lots of other goodies, become an Apprentice==> http://apprentice.applianceguru.com
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 09:15 pm |
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john727 Grasshopper
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OK I have more symptoms now. Makes ice initially and then forms a large sheet of ice on the chill plate. The ice will not drop onto the cutting grid and water circulates over the ice and flows off into the bin allowing the tank to run dry and the circulation pump to run dry and chug. Any ideas whats wrong? Thanks fellow fixers!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30th, 2010 09:54 pm |
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man Fermented Grand Master of Appliantology 
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Hot gas defrost solenoid valve may not be opening; may not be getting voltage or the valve itself may be bad (rare but happens). If it's not getting voltage, the ice thickness control may be set too big or the control could be bad.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 1st, 2010 03:11 pm |
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john727 Grasshopper
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To check the voltage, do I need to wait for the controller to send a signal and if so, how can I tell when that occurs in the cycle? The machine will make a few batches of ice correctly before it creates the block of ice on the chill plate. Thanks
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| Posted: Mon Nov 1st, 2010 03:12 pm |
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john727 Grasshopper
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Also, what is the correct voltage? I was not able to download the wiring diagram in the link above.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 1st, 2010 05:44 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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john727 wrote: ... I was not able to download the wiring diagram in the link above. why not ? clcik on the link, then wait for the "Click Here to Start Download"
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| Posted: Mon Nov 1st, 2010 06:04 pm |
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john727 Grasshopper
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Sorry. Got it now. My adobe reader was way out of date, but got it now. Shows 118V at the plug. Seems to be getting power and symptoms are slightly different today. Ice did not drop at all and larger block (1.5 in thick) of ice formed on chiller plate. Sounds like the valve isn't opening. What do you think? Thanks
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| Posted: Mon Nov 1st, 2010 07:32 pm |
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john727 Grasshopper
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More info. The hot gas defrost solenoid works at least for a minute or more. I watched the cycle and heard solenoid open sending hot gas up to the chiller plate. gas line was cold prior to valve open and hot after going up to chiller plate. Sounded like plate warmed and ice was melting so it could drop to the cutter, but cycle ended, water started to flow over the ice block and it didn't drop on the cutter. Stuck. Ice looks to be about an inch thick. This is an older machine but was working well. Any advise? Thanks
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| Posted: Mon Nov 1st, 2010 08:44 pm |
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denrayr Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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the initial flow of water is supposed to help the ice slide the rest of the way if its stuck. it sounds like the ice machine needs a thorough cleaning. start by running the cleaner through a cleaning cycle. then remove the cutting grid and feel the freeze plate. does it feel smooth? if not you need to carefully polish it with a wet scotch brite pad. Dont get too crazy, or you will end up removing the finish. just polish enough to smooth it out. how does the cutting grid look? are the wires coated in deposits and sagging? carefully sand off the deposits with emery cloth and polish the wire. if the wire is sagging you will need to loosen the wire retaining screws and carefully pull the slack out of it so its tight again.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 1st, 2010 08:55 pm |
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john727 Grasshopper
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Hey thanks for the reply. The machine was totally disassembled and cleaned prior to putting it back in service. I repurchased this from someone who told me it didn't work but that's all I got. It's spotless. Any other ideas? Thanks
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| Posted: Mon Nov 1st, 2010 09:44 pm |
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denrayr Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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try running it with the cutting grid disconnected. see if a slab can make it onto the bin without it installed.
____________________ RedRock Appliance Service 435-773-7838 http://www.redrockrepair.com Serving St George and Southern Utah |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 1st, 2010 10:43 pm |
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john727 Grasshopper
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The slab of ice isn't blocked in any way by the cutting grid. The last few days the slab actually did slide down and it made a few batches of normal ice. Still think that removing the cutting might help?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 1st, 2010 10:53 pm |
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denrayr Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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how does the ice slab look? is it a complete uniform slab? or does it have a thin spot in the center?
____________________ RedRock Appliance Service 435-773-7838 http://www.redrockrepair.com Serving St George and Southern Utah |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 2nd, 2010 12:21 am |
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john727 Grasshopper
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Looks good. just thick now that I let the water flow over it until the tank ran dry. Seems like the ice is not dropping because it is too thick or the chill plate melt cycle is too short. Trying to figure out how to post a picture.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 2nd, 2010 12:27 am |
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man Fermented Grand Master of Appliantology
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Use a free image hosting service like Picasa and then post the link here.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 2nd, 2010 12:28 am |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 2nd, 2010 12:48 am |
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man Fermented Grand Master of Appliantology
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You're trying to post the image from your gmail account. Get the link directly from the Picasa page, look around and read on that page, you'll find it.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 2nd, 2010 01:03 am |
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john727 Grasshopper
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OK lets try this. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/BUM7QrDzoh_pvf0R6THEv5qzwCu7Vdoy5zLItpeHhmQ?feat=directlink
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| Posted: Tue Nov 2nd, 2010 01:08 am |
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john727 Grasshopper
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There is also a connector on the underside of the top of the unit that has two tan wires with a red stripe on them that loop to a small white plastic sensor of some type that is loose. Does anyone know where this wire/sensor go? Could this be part of the issue? Can forward picture if needed. Thanks
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