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 Posted: Thu Oct 7th, 2010 06:05 pm
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"Mammasan" says:few months ago,ice "accretion,built up on Freezer floor."Papasan"(Wolfbro60),aka husband was "busy at Lake searching for nearest Old Style liquor store,"hangin' at Lake.SO,I wasn't there when the accretion happened,but after I "slammed" some "kreuesened" Classic Wisconsin beverages,I waited a few weeks to rid the Hangover and loaded my Truck with Tools.As the Grankids&Daughter,etc.,moved on ,I pulled the Maytag away from its VERY close proximity to Dryer&Washer,in our "Indiana Castle"(Trailer/doublewide with some room additions(3).Now this Maytag is about 7 years old New.First I cleaned the Condenser,as best I could with the Hoover attachmens.Then I heard it blowing through the Condenser,as it was anyway.The High&low side of the Compressor,while running,were warm&cold ,to the touch.So,I figer the compressor was runnin; ,and apparently OK? I left the rear cardboard/insulated panel off,as I fergot my Shopvac,to "really clean the Condenser,and get a brush too!I leave the rear panel off for now,seeing that we only have 2 inches,at best between the wall& rear of Fridge.Let it run per several websites recommended Defrost Timer adbvance,Etc. Plug In and I hear Compressor,you know that "distinct" sound? Leave on for hours,finally no Cold in Freezer compartment,which also means none in Fresh Food section,EH?Open up Freezer Evap Cover feel tubes,Cold!After awhile the "sensing bulb on top of Evap had a pretty "SOLID" piece of Ice around it.Checking websites like Einstein researching "matter"!Looking for Defrost Problems ,figuring it MUST be a defrost problem? Then I tested the Defrost TStat Cold& Hot,in specs.Open around15 degrees and ClosedAt 80.So,My Sword "rattlers",I'm lookin through the Refigeration Cheap& Easy book ,I've Renewed three times,took back ,and took out,agin AND renewed once.Most people woulda gave up by now EH? But originally MAMMASAN calls Service Tech who says :Sounds like you need Compressor!Buy New Fridge! MAMA says He thinks we live in "Outback",Why I can't Imagine! Far Valley Road ,Turn Right off Shockey Truck Trail! I Kid you NOT!It's Dirt Road ,or as I say:"California Concrete"!So I go to next Item on Troubleshoot list :Cold Control".I jump with Alligator Clip,one Red&Blue wire,but I oput a Volt meter(VOM)in series ,with the jumper to see IF any Voltage is present? NADA,ZILCH,NUTTIN! Now,Do I go to test the Compressor Overload& Start relays ,or Just buy them now and see wassuup?TANKU@MUCH  MAMMASAN go town many mile away(60),so She thinks I can get online or phone and get the parts I suspect,as my guess is change the Compressor Overload&Start relay kit?FREE BEER in our Barn ,for whoever comes up with the solution before she gets back!!Then when Fridge is running ,I'll save up for NEXT Summers annual Wolfbrother's All American Beer Championship,Free Beer but warm if NO fridge!Oh yeah,By the way,we do have a GE in the Shed,send Grandaughter though.UP&DOWN those steps ! I'm on TWO canes(Hip)She's On Heart EVERYTHING,We ain't Spring Chickens ,but Winter "Buzzards!:? Let's see now,65,000 membersX 2 beers each@ LOL!!     

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... depends on size/quantity/location of frost/ice on Evaporator Coils

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I can't get back to my Ranch right nw,AND my Digicam is MIA! Thanks,will post images ASAP!

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RegUS_PatOff wrote: ... depends on size/quantity/location of frost/ice on Evaporator Coils

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HEY!,Thanks for your reply,but I've been lookin for my Digicam ALL day yesterday& Today! I'm hoping an associate,didn't by "mistake"?,Borrow it.You Gotta Lock EVERYTHING nowadays! NEVER know who the "THIEF" IS? Aside from NOT giving you an image,I know tis issue is even more complicated by Mammasan& I seperated by 65 miles! Like I said in my post,I'm here at my Trailer(Indiana "Redneck Style")You know,Fishin poles in the ceiling,"NASCAR WALLPAPER",etc.!Wife had lived here when former husband Died,Long Story! I arrive at "Martha Stewart" decorated Doublewides,converted to Southern California "Rancho"(4.98 Acres w/Barn) Wayyyy down Dirt road,Dirt cheap in 2000!Nice small hallway ,less than 6 feet wide seperating the back bedroom additions.On one hall wall is our Major Appliances.First we have our Maytag sidexside,washer&dryer.So,I gotta pull this "bad boy" out,and being it won't fit through Doorway to Kitchen/Dining area.A Partition ,FOUR feet wide would be just in the way,as fortune would have it.I check the compressor for RUN,high&low side feel hot&cold,but WARM inside both Freezer&Frsh Food comp.75 degrees or so.Mama says:Ice accretion ,maybe inch thick,month or so? Her info,unreliable,at best!Grandson had removed back freezer panel for inspection.Him being at least 21?("step Grandkids)Nothing on floor,plugged in for ,I don't know how long?Month or?Still plugged in upon arrival 09/08/2010!Iafter my "bud"& I clean condenser best we could with "Dirt Devil",No filter(basket style)Vac. attachment.I never saw a condenser,this style:Maytag,box shaped "square spring".Remove Freezer panelback of ,fan on(evap)Aluminum?,like "heater core"shaped,fins too.Was Very clean tho.ICE chunk On sensing bulb,top of Evap tubing:3/8" or so?The "bulb(encased in ice 1/4"thick,or so?So first I used a hair dryer,and proceeded the adventure at "Ranco Del Boop",I kid you NOT!As serious as a member of Al Qaeda ,flying over anybodys town in a "Jumbo Jet"!AND,We know How Serious "THEM BAD BOYS" are!After "the Evap thaw",I tested the Fridge operation,with it back in it's "cubby hole",scraping the FOUR Foot wide partition,with "skid marks",trying to get it back in there!Isuggest removal of Partition,and make "Archway",but "Martha Stewart" won't "buy" that! For ease of maintenace ,cause Dryer too ,has issue!I suggest one of these low profile "dollies" ,I saw somewhere ,in my 100 hour research of Refrigeration "101"!I listen for Compressor,Started/running,Evap fan on(visual)I thought I heard condenser fan too,while back in cubby hole.It WAS running when my 280 poundDisabled body,manuevered,'behind" the "Maytag Monster"(MSD2732GRW)about 7-9 years old?She told me but my "Beer cells",have been diminished somewhat after 50,000 or so in my Life(60)minus 20(age) ,w/o Brewski!It Ain't Helpin Padner,that I have a Morhine "Infusion" pump,low dose,for Chronic Regional Pain Syndrome& Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy(Left Leg,Hip(plates&screws)!"Foot Drop"and a TIA(mini-Stroke),so Memories? Huh? So,to make a "short?,story even longer,I saw the Defrost heater working,as the numerous trps ,back&forth,the past THREE weeks,with sleepovers.That way ,I'd work till my hip "turned sideways"(getting up,to work by 8-9AM! Go to Circle K,for "Monster Coffee,Take Meds,proceed to follow,info from MANY websites and Book from Library(GOOD one $120) "Refrigerator Repair","Cheap and EASY"?I'm NOT thinkin,"EASY"!This is a very Good expensive book,although 67 pages,well illustrated and thorough.But Amazon sells for $120!So,I take out ,renew,take back,take out,renew!After I thought I had this Defrost problem?,"Down Pat",it wouldn't Freeze up the sensing bulb again! In All the confusion and travails,plus I worked until I couldn't stand!,I tested the Cold Control,using alligator "jumper",hooking up my analog multimeter(in series)One lead to female feed./connector,insert meter test lead to where Red terminal was on Cold Control and other lead to Blue from Cold control,clip on alligators,meter,wrap white 12AWG wire,insulated,around multimeter,to protect from "arc welding:"Flash",plug er in,setting C/C to 5,or halway.Heard Compressor,Evap fan& I think Cond. fan!Set at ACV.150 on meter,NO Voltage present there ,but unit is on sounds like all is working.Let run hours,No ice,no voltage at meter/cold control,test setup,and warm in both sides.Meter was in fresh food comp.I have both Digital thermometers and pocket dial types.Showed 60-70 degrees after Running till MA had to "RUN:!Mammasan been very patient with me and aside from not being a Frig Tech,EPA licensed Tech,I said I'll fix this or die trying,unless It's the Compressor or charge! I have Construction,Apartment Maintenance10 years,and Plumbing 2 years,County Building Maintenace Engineer(10yr.) Until one day by default,"Da Fault" of him who was passing another car,two lane rural town highway,NOT enough Speed or Room,and "SMACK" me Head-On!There goes my New 99 Jeep Wranglers'airbag(saved me!)and bounces into the guy behind me too!I was "OUT" ,saw or remembered nuthin,but the Truck behind me saw the whole "show"!(Why I'm not able to "contort",again to keep pulling Fridge out,and my Hip NEVER felt like this before.contortionist,I ain't.If it was me,I'd build an archway,and "wheel er to HUGE Kitchen area,maybe get that flat low profile:"Fridge Mover"?Take off doors,wheel to area ,where a guy can access everything!Imagine a Huge Kitchen/Dining area,"L" shaped Counter,cabinets galore,and an "ISLAND",to boot! BUT NO place for a fRIDGEWall to Wall!Maybe next to Wood Stove?NOT!Aside from the $23.60 ,for the Defrost Timer,I checked four times(bench test),and with different meters,and conflicting website: "How To Test A Defrost Timer!Two differing opinions on the testing method,added to my frustration.NOT to mention: "Mammasan",who called a Tech who says: "Sounds like you need a new compressor,may as well buy a new Fridge"!Or RepairClinics price was $30.65 plus 1,000 miles @ 18Mpg@ $3 per=$165for Petrol.No problem Honey!Mammasan can make "Killer meatloaf&Corned Beef! Being with her alone,was woth it.BUT she has so many Health problems,looking at this Maytag that Ain't Workin,makes me not feel worth a dang! "BOYS"?,Can you think of anything I haven't done,I know :Long Distance diagnostics and Details,deails! But from wghat I've saud& done ,I thought as a last resort,I'd get a Compressor Relay/overload kit? Waddyas TINK? Tankd fer da listen! EH? PS,I thought my Ranger Trans was Phffffttt!I did the same web research ,and "most" said: Get Trans Overhaul.But my instinct says DIY,$35 Parts ATF oil&filter kit,VOILA! Shifts like New! DVD recorder,Panasonic,GOOD [url=mailto:Deal@Walmart.Taken]Deal@Walmart.Taken[/url] in to Factory twice,found "DSuper websitetip.Clean DVD disc mount! DONE! many times since too! ,meaning I USUALLY CAN DO!!Thank you all ! Confusious say: NEVA Give up ship,unless boat sink!

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Possible "Record" Post? Bonus Honor,As a Member of The National Beer Drinkers Hall Of Flame(used in brewing,nephew "Brewmeister"@ Boulder Brewing Company,ask for Tony,tell him Uncle Tom says members of our "secret Society of Samurai Appliantologists,EACH shall receive a draft "Mojo"India Pale Ale!IF Mammasan has Cold Juice Next Week!Shame to Beer drinkers ALL over World! Juice,next to one of "MANS'"Oldest concoctions of Intoxicatoory Bliss!Guess where,MY,forefathers discovered the earliest "known" beer brewing?As A Real True Bohemian,among the World's Finest Brewers,AND the nationality of the Archaeologist,who discovered it?Yep! You're absolutely correct,BOHEMIAN! And for the answer of WHERE?,close your eyes uif you don't want to see the answer,of which I ,would never,ever,have guessed: Ready now?Now,just a daggone minute thar SON!Tell me it Ain't So! But yes,It apparently is,in fact IT truly is Babylon,aka IRAQ!When they stop drinkin?Why'd they stop? These are questions Mankind has been asking for thousands of years!No wonder they Lost the War! Ha Ha!Our Troops Not Only Will and Do Kick Some Serious BUTT,We got The biggest Beer stash the world has ever known! Thank God!10-4 Ya'll,Morphine pump working Overtime,Sleep like Rumplestiltskin tonight!:cheers::cheers:

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Thanks for your patience,there,ya'll! Just want to say I WILL be getting Images of Evap icing,altho,We unplugged the unit. IF,I could just get her to let me move the Frig into a more accessable area.But she won't have it! Thanks Men,I've reassured her My friends WILL,get this thing workin again,I'msorry for the lengthy Post,but I must fix this for her.There's alot "on the line" here! Beer Fund Contribution,Forthcoming!Thankds again,there's NO Site out there,Where else cold a guy get the Help for a DIY,Fridge job? She's in better health today,We'll Get those images back here ,ASAP!,While I link up to Facebook Praising the virtues of "the Samurai"!!

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Promise to Summarize this Maytag MSD2732GRW Issue with Frost/Ice on Evaporator! I've been "trying" ALL week to get the images,after a 130 mile trip to "Rancho Del Boop",My "home away from Home"!imageshack.com ,I had some problems with.I searched for "other" Image photo sites,Can't find the "right" one yet! I DO have the pictures stored in "MY Pictures" on Windows Camera Wizard" w/"Power Toys"?I'll get these images ASAP.My main question is,After I "jumped" the Cold Control",the Evaporator,iced/Frosted up again.I heard Compressor "kick on",but can't tell if it's continuous? Do to "MAMMASAN's location of Maytagn in hallway/corridor,It couldn't be in a much lousier place for maintenance/repair! There's a 5-6 ft. wide hallway. A friend and I "cocked it" sideways,jumping over Dryer,to feel high&low side,and listen for compressor&condenser fan&clean condenser,briefly."They got this HUGE Maytag in there by removing doors on sidexside unit,and "Fanagalling" it in there!So,I heard comptressor running,Cond. fan,etc,"back there"! Now my hip's all "messed up",had surgery 1999 anyway,but proceeded to Defrost controls.tested Defrost timer according to one website,but another said differently.So I got RepairClinic part $30.65 gamble.Since no serviceman she talked to would even come wayyyyy out to our Maxican Border:"Forbidden Kingdom",I told Mamma,I'd take My shot",with yoose guys help,a good manual,My Engineer skills,Maybe,I'd save us a GRAND$$$? I have a "backup plan,knowing a refrigerant tech,working here maintenance,so ,I tiold him because of distance,I'll Bring it to him"! Question,FINALLY! If Defrost Timer(new),heater works,term.Tstat,OK,Cold Control bypass(jumper),Compressor on?(temnporarily)Like say,can't quite ttell Unit So tight again wall,No clearance on Left,Dryer on right.AND been running months ,Grandson checked Ice(thick) on freezer comp.floor,drain is clear,etc.Overload/start relay,Compressor? Please tell me that's it?Otherwise,I'm IN THE BARN!

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wolfbrother60 wrote: .. Please tell me that's it?Otherwise,I'm IN THE BARN!

RegUS_PatOff wrote: ... depends on size/quantity/location of frost/ice on Evaporator Coils

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