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Posted: Mon Aug 23rd, 2010 07:09 am

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OK Im trying to troubleshoot and fix the ice maker in my GE Eterna fridge (6 years old)

Ive followed some of the advice here (thanks!) but havent found the solution or problem yet.

This is what Ive tried/Know:

1. Hooked up waterline to back of fridge used to be on the RO system, changed it to a straight line where my washer water comes out.
2. Removed the "filter" not sure what this thing does
3. checked the black line that runs up the back to fill the ice tray. I may have broken this BTW, I pulled it out of the blue solidoid thingy and blew thru it. just like a DUI stop but less expensive. I was able to blow thru it and also with water which came out in the trays. so its not freezing.
4. Green light is on on the unit, I think it flashes too.
5. I havent gotten it to cycle thru like its trying to make ice, it doesnt move any more and dont know if it should??
6. There was a chunk of ice underneath the unit awhile back, like something leaked, but like I said Im not getting water to it so I dont know why.
7. Low water pressure out of the door, comes out ok at first then dies out. meh.

Anyway the damn thing doesn't work and would love to have ice again, its pretty nice to have this sometimes.

ANybody got any ideas? Things to try? i dont mind tearing into it, I just need to know what to do so I dont break it worse!!

thanks in Advance.

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Posted: Mon Aug 23rd, 2010 12:17 pm

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one of Water Valves behind Fridge may be bad

has this ever worked, or was never hooked to water, or bought Fridge used ?

model number ?

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Posted: Mon Aug 23rd, 2010 02:11 pm

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For newer GE ice makers, manually start the harvest cycle like this:

http://fixitnow.com/wp/2009/12/27/manually-starting-a-harvest-cycle-in-a-new-ge-icemaker/

For the older ones, turn the power switch off and back on, then press the paddle in three times within 6 seconds. May take a couple tries.

If no manual harvest and freezer temps are less than 15F, you need a new ice maker

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Posted: Tue Sep 7th, 2010 07:21 pm

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I think its a newer one (IM6 ?) not sure but I bought it around 2002 2003? Anyway it looks like its the one in the pic in the link you included (http://fixitnow.com/wp/2009/12/27/manually-starting-a-harvest-cycle-in-a-new-ge-icemaker/)
but mine has a toggle on off switch with a green led.

I tried both methods, to no avail.

I tried pulling the rake forward but it seemed jammed and I didnt want to break it... also its currently in a horizontal position anyway.

I have noticed that after I messed with it there is now ice in the fill tray but its not cycling.

Im thinking i should just buy a new icemaker but I want to make sure I get the correct one.

Should take it out and apart and maybe mess with it or is it worth it?

Thanks!

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Posted: Tue Sep 7th, 2010 07:58 pm

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You have to pull the rake fingers like you mean it but don't yank on 'em, just steady pull. If in fact it really is jammed, then you'll be replacing the icemaker anyway so no biggie if you break it.

If the LED comes on when you turn it on and the icemaker won't manual harvest AND your freezer temp is less than 15F, then it's new icemaker time...

http://www.repairclinic.com/SSPartDetail.aspx?s=b3a1i1399596&PartID=1399596

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Posted: Wed Sep 8th, 2010 07:39 pm

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the drama continues..
I yanked on the ice rake thingy and it moved thru its cycle, acted as if it was frozen in place. Anyway it pushed out the mini size ice cubes in the tray it made put it didnt refill the tray with water or move over night etc.

The water level is low in the cubes and the door water dispenser barely pisses out water.

Im guessing I have multiple issues here? low(internal) water pressure and the ice maker not cycling unless pushed to do so.

Thinking I need a whole ice maker new unit and some sort of pump or valve? Water is hooked up directly to the wall where my washer water comes in so i think pressure is ok to the unit.

Any suggestions here/now? thx!

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Posted: Wed Sep 8th, 2010 08:17 pm

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I would check the water supply shutoff valve. These tend to build up crap that don't allow an ample supply of water to the solenoid. If you have the piercing type valve, shut it off entirely and then open it up again. If the problem persists, then shut off the house water supply and pull the whole piercing valve assembly out and run a drill bit up in there to clear it out. Be very careful not to go through the other side of the copper supply pipe!!!

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fridge model number ?

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Posted: Thu Sep 9th, 2010 03:34 am

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its model number ess25lgma ww

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Posted: Thu Sep 9th, 2010 03:35 am

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whats the water supply shutoff valve look like? im guessing its behind and under the fridge?

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How is the Water Filter ?

Yes, The Water Valves are behind the Fridge.

There's (2) sets of Dual Water Valves on that model.

I don't know which Valve does what.

here's what they look like separately

click on picture

click on picture

OR the assembly

click on picture

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not sure on the water filter.. can i remove it from the system completely to eliminate issues?

ALso thanks for the pics.. How do I remove the hoses that connect into them? I tried taking one of them out and couldn't get it back in all the way so im a little leary.. just need to know the correct procedure. im guessing it has to do with the white rings around them.. dont want to create a bigger problem ya know?

if i do get them out i just run a drill bit into them to clean out the valve?

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Posted: Thu Sep 9th, 2010 04:24 am

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nightowlhid wrote:
whats the water supply shutoff valve look like? im guessing its behind and under the fridge?

Follow the 1/4" plastic or copper tubing from the back of the fridge to where it ends and connects to a pipe. That's the saddletap-- water shut off-- valve.

Ice Maker Saddle Tap Valves - the Good and the Bad by Zenzoidman, on Flickr

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Posted: Thu Sep 9th, 2010 05:21 am

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no such animal that I see.. have the back open and all i see is the incoming hose and the valves with four hoses coming out.. hmmm.

Samurai Appliance Repair Man wrote: nightowlhid wrote:
whats the water supply shutoff valve look like? im guessing its behind and under the fridge?

Follow the 1/4" plastic or copper tubing from the back of the fridge to where it ends and connects to a pipe. That's the saddletap-- water shut off-- valve.

Ice Maker Saddle Tap Valves - the Good and the Bad by Zenzoidman, on Flickr

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Posted: Thu Sep 9th, 2010 05:42 am

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Go to the *other* end of the tube.

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that or take the filter out of the loop... Im guessing it was the culprit because it flows fine now.

IM thinking I need a new icemaker at this point. It does a manual harvest if I push the rake hard enough but then comes to a rest horizontally (pointing forward) and doesnt move after that. I will wait overnight and see if it does anything.

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you remove the filter and you get water out of the dispenser at the door??? are you using the water by-pass plug?? Ran into this low/no-flow problem a few times..................With the filter removed and the by-pass plug removed, look the filter housing......See a little black pointy thing pointing down from the housing ??? that lets water into the filter...I have seen these things not get depressed and no water flows....The pointy thing was sitting at an angle, I straightened it up and the water flows............

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Posted: Thu Sep 9th, 2010 05:08 pm

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When was the last time you replaced that filter...

http://fixitnow.com/wp/2010/04/24/when-was-the-last-time-you-replaced-the-water-filter-in-your-refrigerator/

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yes I put the white plug piece in.. the one that says "save for future use" on it. Its as if they knew!! lol

Now that ive narrowed it down to the icemaker.. is there any hope for it ? it does a manual harvest, but it hasnt filled the tray with water to harvest anything.. so idk what to do besides change it out,, unless anyone else has ideas..

Also, are there removal / replacement directions for this icemaker?

thanks.

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And the freezer is 15 F. Or colder?

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