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Hi all,

I am having a problem with a GE GTS22WCMBRWW.

Every day or two for the last month or so the freezer temp goes up to the 30s-40s. Then it starts freezing again at some point. At first I suspected that the door seal/gasket was bad so I installed a new one. That did not help. This is what I have done so far:

1. inspected the compressor/fan area and nothing looked bad.
2. vacuumed the dust blanket from the cage behind that fan. that didnt help.
3. checked the model and serial no (GD314944) against the GE boards recall list in your forum but I couldnt find it :?.
4. followed your troubleshooting flow chart and got stuck on the "evaporator coated in fuzzy ice"... At furst it was NO because the compressor hasnt been working the last 24 hours... When it started working the answer is YES... here is what I observed the last 3-4 days:

Thursday night- I vacuumed the dust behind the fridge- went to bed with the freezer working. Set both dials at 5 per your forum.
Friday evening- found icecream melted... so I put the weather station sensor in the freezer, checked the door sensors(they work), looked at the board(everything seemed/smelled normal), read your forum :) to figure out how things need to work. sometime during that evening the freezer started to cool down from about 30ish down to 0 or 1F so I went to bed.
Sat morning- freezer was still around 0 or -1 but I was trying to see what happens when the defrost kicks in.
Sat afternoon around 3-4pm (coincided with when we started to open the fridge door more) the temp started going up again. It went up to 36ish. When i went to bed it was about 28-32.:(
Sunday morning (today) it was the same. I was busy all day but when I came back home around 4pm I started working on it. I went by your flowchart and of course the evaporator didnt have any ice on it. I jumped J8 with L1 (with he board unplugged) and the compressor kicked in momentarily. then when I re-plugged the board the compressor FINALLY started working :):). That was about an hour- hour and a half ago. 30 min after that YES there was fuzzy ice on the evaporator :) so the flowchart took me to the "troubleshoot defrost system failure" step. BTW by now the freezer temp is 9 and going down... I know it is only for a day or two though :X.

Here is my version (with my limited refridgerator knowledge based on reading your forums):

compressor is fine; defrost works fine but after it is over something is failing to start the compressor again- either board or the defrost thermostat (BIG GUESS). i keep thinking if the thermostat is supposed to tell the board to start the compressor back at a certain temp it is failing to do that. I dont know what has been making it magically start after a day or so in the last month or so (doors openning/closing?) but thats my guess. So i am thinking of getting a new thermostat tomorrow and try replacing.

Am I on the right track? Or is anything telling you it may be the board or something else?
What are the steps to replace the thermostat? i recall reading about splicing the wires and using wire nuts and something about silicon but not sure where to put the silicon...:P Also do i need to remove the evaporator:shock: to get to the thermostat- looks like it is behind it :(. Sorry if any of those questions were dumb...:P

Thank you!!!!!

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I would suspect that your mother board is failing. The defrost themistor does tell the board when the desired temperature is reached but the board has a built in time for defrost that varies depending on certain thingss

if you unplug the refrigerator for 15 minutes or so and reconnect it it you should hear a relay on the board click which sends power to the compressor to come on. if you don't hear that click then the board is usually bad.

The thermistor is inexpensive and if you have the old type with the "round" top instead of the flat top it's recommended that you replace it anyways.

The preferred method of replacing the thermistor is to soulder the connect and cover with heat shrink or suitable material. I generally use Butt connectors and heat shrink, but you have to be careful due to the small diameter of the wires.

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I dont remember hearing a click but I wasnt listening for it. I will test it tomorrow because I am afraid of the compressor stopping and everything melting AGAIN overnight.:?

The thermistor you said I should change- is it #203 (on the side wall) or #605 (behind the right side of the evaporator) on the schematics? 

Thank you for the advise.

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I was referring to #605 however if 203 is the old type I would change it as well. Also, is the Evaporator fan in the freezer working?






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Thanks. Yes, the fan in the freezer is working.

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OK. I ordered 2 thermistors and will try replacing them first and see if that solves my problem. I will post an update after that.

Thanks!

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Thermistors ..

(2) Fridge (1) Freezer



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Thermistor locations shown on this page:

http://fixitnow.com/wp/2010/06/30/ge-profile-and-arctica-refrigerators-upgraded-thermistors/



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I just replaced #203 and #605. I also confirmed that the relay on the board does click after the fridge has been unplugged for 15 minutes.

The fridge has been unplugged for about an hour and a half while I was replacing the thermistors. How long should it take for the compressor to kick in after I plug it back?

Thanks!

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Never mind. The compressor kicked in. Now we wait and make sure the freezer works for 4 days in a row. :D

From what I read the temp is supposed to be around 6F, is that correct? How much should the temp go up during defrost? In other words what should be the warmest temp I see in a properly working freezer?

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normal temperatures are about 38F to 40F in the Frdige and about 0F in the Freezer..
depending on how hard you like your ice cream..

during Defrost ... depends on how much you have in your Freezer to keep things frozen ..



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Alright. I dont think this thing is fixed after replacing the two thermistors in the freezer. :(Since Thursday it has been doing the low temp-high temp thing and it seemes on shorter intervals of time. The compressor does kick in but not after the temp in the freezer goes up to over 30F. Here is some temperatures:

Fri night went up to 31 before compressor kicked in.

Sat:
6am - 7F
8:30am - 34F
9:45am - 5F
11:25am - 6F
12:20pm - 23F
4pm - 26F
4:15pm - 30F

Am I right that there shouldnt be several defrost cycles per day and the temp shouldnt be going that high?
So could it be the board? Or could I have done something wrong while replacing the two thermistors? I havent replaced the one in the fridge yet but will in my next order...

What do yall think?

If you say it is the board and I order one from repairclinic.com and replace and it doesnt fix the fridge- is it true I can return the board for a full refund?

Thank you!

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Is the Freezer full, or empty ?

 



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Freezer is about 1/4 full- not much stuff in it.

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venpen wrote:
I just replaced #203 and #605.


These aren't the thermistors according to the diagrams I'm looking at...??

You need to replace both thermistors in the freezer.



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I meant #203 and #605 on this schematic:

http://www.us1internet.net/GTS22WCMBRWW/

So it is the two thermistors in the freezer. One was on the side wall under a plastic lid and the other one behind the back wall to the side of the evaporator coils.

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Yes you can return the un needed part if you purchase it from Repair clinic.



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Hi all,

I ordered the board and installed it on Wed night. The compressor kicked in right after I plugged the fridge. The freezer has been between 0 and 8 or so since then with an average of I guess 2 :D. Icecream hasnt melted since :D.

THANK YOU all!!! I am definitelly recommending your forum and repairclinic.com to all my friends and others.

THANKS!!!

 

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How do I mark this thread as resolved?

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Theres no resolved marking tool, we usually just do a little celebratory dance and sometimes the Samurai will sacrifice a goat :)

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