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| Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 06:36 am |
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simmerhawaii Grasshopper
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had E1 F5 error code. searched the forums, did as recomended, the e1 f5 code is gone, but i have a LOC message on the keypad that i cannot get to go away. tried: disconnecting power 24 hours holding down oven light button for 5 seconds cancel button 5 seconds messed with latch pushing various other buttons on the keypad.... keep getting beep beep beep sound, 3 beeps, with no change in LOC status. there is no lock icon (a little padlock) only the word LOC... couldn't find a fix for this searching forums.... recomendations? thanks.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 07:03 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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F5 E1 Door latch not operating 1. Verify error code by pressing and holding CANCEL/OFF key for 5 seconds. Momentarily (less than 5sec.) press CANCEL key again to remove error code display. 2. Program and start the Clean mode. Observe to see if door locks. If it does not, inspect the locking mechanism from the solenoid to the latch pawl and door to find the cause of the problem. If the door is not locking, then 1 minute from the start of the Clean, the F5 E1 code will again be displayed. Press CANCEL key to remove error code display. 3. Once any mechanical problems with the latch mechanism have been corrected, program and start a Clean cycle (after, if necessary, clearing F5 E1 error code) to ensure proper operation of the door lock. Immediately cancel the Clean mode to observe proper operation of door unlock. RF386PXGQ3 Tech Sheets
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| Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 07:15 am |
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simmerhawaii Grasshopper
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i will give that a try, see if i can get the LOC code to go away by holding cancel down for 5 seconds, then pushing cancel agian... if that works, at least it's a start. thanks....
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| Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 07:23 am |
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simmerhawaii Grasshopper
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no luck... after 7 seconds of holdling down the cancel/off i get three beeps. then pushing the cancel and holding down for less than 5 sec, i get one beep, and no change in the LOC display if hold down cancel/off for 5 sec, no beeps, then push cancel/off for less than 5 sec, one beep, no change.... next step?
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| Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 07:46 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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RegUS_PatOff wrote:
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| Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 08:22 pm |
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simmerhawaii Grasshopper
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no keypad functions are working... push any key pad button and all i get is 'beep' i cannot do step #2.... i need to clear the LOC issue first, is that possible?
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| Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 08:32 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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LOC is not an error, it's just saying that the Oven Door is locked ... may be a problem with the Door Lock Switches ... (from earlier error F5 E1)
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| Posted: Wed Oct 7th, 2009 09:22 pm |
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simmerhawaii Grasshopper
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must be, the door certainly isn't locked... isn't there a lock icon? like a little padlock that is supposed to show when locked? regardless... what do you think my next step should be? i looked at the lock on the door, messed with it a bit, seems okay, nothing obvious.. .wiring issue maybe? what do you suggest?
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| Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 01:28 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Check the Door Latch Switch to see if it's mechanically activated ... Try disconnecting one connector on the Door Latch Switch ...
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| Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 06:27 am |
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simmerhawaii Grasshopper
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door latch switch.... mechanically activated? it must be, as it's not manually activated... where would i find that door latch switch connector? take off the back of the stove and try the wiring back there? this is different than the selenoid that activates the door latch?
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| Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 02:06 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Yes, it's on the back of the Range ... check the position of the Cam / Switch Door Latch Motor w/ Switch  Attachment: Page from 8178042.JPG (Downloaded 34 times)
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| Posted: Thu Oct 8th, 2009 07:59 pm |
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simmerhawaii Grasshopper
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thanks much, i will get on that later this eve and let you know how i make out. big thanks for the pics....
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10th, 2009 07:22 am |
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simmerhawaii Grasshopper
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i took off the back of the unit as here is what i found: the cam is in the open position (this makes sense, i can open the oven door) i can manually rotate the motor arm/cam to the locked position, i get the lock'd indicator on the display (while LOC is still displayed) then, the motor automatically rotates the arm/cam back to the unlocked position. there is a noteable "CLICK" sound at both the unlock and lock position i get this same "CLICK" sound everytime the push pin that is the switch for the oven light goes in or out EXCEPT, if i manually move the motor to lock, when the motor starts to auto rotate the arm back to unlock, if i toggle the push pin/oven light switch, there is no "CLICK". so no "CLICKING" while motor is runnig. I don't know if any of that clicking sound is relavent, but it seemed odd to me.... anyway, i am guessing something will need replacing, but i still don't know what.... what's next?
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10th, 2009 02:28 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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try the "cancel" routine while it's in the locked position ... may need help from a second person ..
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| Posted: Sat Oct 10th, 2009 06:00 pm |
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simmerhawaii Grasshopper
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no luck, all i get when i hold down cancel is 'beep beep beep'... whether the cam is in he lock or unlock position. the only functioning buttons on kyepad are for the time/clock. all other keypad buttons give me a 'beep'....
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 02:16 am |
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simmerhawaii Grasshopper
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any ideas here? my oven needs to get working again relatively soon.... and i don't think LOC display means the unit thinks the door is locked: the door is not locked and the word lock'd comes on the display when i manually rotate the cam and actually lock the door.... then lock'd disappears when the cam rotates to the unlock position.... all the while LOC is still displayed.... thanks...
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 02:36 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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I asked my 5 year old ..... "Child Lock" Press and hold START/ENTER for 5 seconds. You will hear 3 tones followed by a single one. “Loc” and “LOCK’D” will disappear from the temperature display.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 02:45 am |
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Pegi Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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Try this... Control locked Service Pointer...
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 02:59 am |
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simmerhawaii Grasshopper
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child lock! that makes sense.... i will try the start/enter button when i get home this eve... see where that gets me.... thanks once again for your help..... and thanks to pegi for the service pointer. once i get the child lock cleared i can see where i am at.. wish me luck...
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2009 06:57 am |
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simmerhawaii Grasshopper
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your five year old is brilliant... LOC problem solved no error messages, and the unit is now self cleaning! thanks much.... and aloha!
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