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| Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 10:31 am |
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pcworth Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Dear Sensei, After accessing the service manual on my Miele dishwasher family from this website a few weeks ago, I have had great success in sorting out a problem, but now, I sense that another might be about to emerge, and I would appreciate some advice. Just after the dishwasher commences a cycle (when I think the initial water inlet is occurring), a loud and painful-sounding "groaning" noise can be heard, for a period of about 15-30 seconds. The noise then stops, but it may occur later, again at a time in the cycle when new water is perhaps being loaded. The machine is otherwise working perfectly.....at the moment. I am assuming that this noise might relate to a water pump, and the subject of bearings comes to mind. However, I am far from sure that this is the correct conclusion. Can anyone offer an explanation, and any advice about what I can do about it myself? I would be most grateful. Sincerely, Peter
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 11:38 am |
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Chat_in_RI Sublime Master of Appliantology 
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pcworth wrote: Just after the dishwasher commences a cycle (when I think the initial water inlet is occurring), a loud and painful-sounding "groaning" noise can be heard, for a period of about 15-30 seconds. The noise then stops, but it may occur later, again at a time in the cycle when new water is perhaps being loaded. The machine is otherwise working perfectly.....at the moment. "Sounds" like a fill valve issue... Does the noise change or stop if you open the hot water tap at the sink while the noise is in progress?
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 08:17 pm |
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pcworth Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Thanks very much for your suggestion. I don't know the answer, but will check the response to tap opening today. I should have also mentioned that this noise does not occur on every cycle, but it seems to be becoming more frequent.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 08:54 am |
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pcworth Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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I tried turning on the hot (and cold) water when the dishwasher made its usual noise this evening, but there was no change in the audible sound. Does that give you any further clues?
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27th, 2009 12:08 pm |
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man Fermented Grand Master of Appliantology 
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Could you to make a recording of the noise? Might help us visualize possibilities of its origin. Also, remove the kickplate and see if you can isolate the source to a specific part.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27th, 2009 09:14 pm |
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pcworth Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Thanks, that's a very interesting idea! I'm not yet quite sure how I might record the sound and upload it however...I'll give it some thought, but further suggestions would be most welcome. Meantime, I will certainly see if I can narrow down the origin of the sound by removing the kick plate. I have now established that the sound definitely occurs twice in each cycle, and it doesn't happen exactly at the time of water intake after all, but just a little time after that.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27th, 2009 09:39 pm |
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or video & audio with a camcorder, if you could then capture it into your computer, and then upload it to a place such as youtube
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27th, 2009 09:50 pm |
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pcworth Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Yes of course...YouTube! I will work on it. Thanks for your advice.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28th, 2009 03:44 pm |
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Chat_in_RI Sublime Master of Appliantology
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Samurai Appliance Repair Man wrote: Could you to make a recording of the noise? Might help us visualize possibilities of its origin. I like it 
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28th, 2009 08:18 pm |
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pcworth Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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I took the kick plate off last night for the performance, but wasn't able to deduce much! For what it is worth, the noise sounded to be coming more from the right hand side at the bottom, looking into the dishwasher. Incidentally, I have discovered that there is a sound recording program already on most Windows computers(you learn something every day), so I just have to get my laptop and a microphone to the dishwasher at the right time, and bob's your uncle. I haven't worked out the next step after that yet!
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 10:55 am |
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pcworth Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Well guys, this is certainly turning out to be a voyage of discovery. Using my son's laptop, I managed to successfully record the offending dishwasher noise with the Windows Sound Recorder. Then I emailed it to myself, so it is now available on this computer. It played without any problem on my Windows Media Player. Unfortunately, the Sound Recorder only allows a 60 second file, but this time was sufficient to capture almost all of the sequence...at least I hope that it will be enough for some Sherlock out there to make a diagnosis! Next problem. The Sound Recorder produces a ".wav" file (yes, well, I have only just found out what that is myself!) and as it happens, that sort of file is not accepted by YouTube. I tried attaching the file in a Word document to this post, but it exceeded the size limitation. So, I now just have to work out how to get anyone else to hear it! Any further suggestions?
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 08:13 pm |
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pcworth Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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I'm still not sure it will work, but try this. I found a free site where you can upload files (http://uploadingit.com) and put the dishwasher noises on there. I haven't quite worked out their jargon, but hopefully if you click on the link below, you might be able to listen to the recording! Good luck. Please let me know if you have any success. http://uploadingit.com/files/1171356_2c0vs/Dishwasher.wav
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 08:22 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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pcworth wrote: http://uploadingit.com/files/1171356_2c0vs/Dishwasher.wav Attachment: Dishwasher.gif (Downloaded 20 times)
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 09:02 pm |
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pcworth Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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OK, I will have to investigate how to "give you permission"! At least we know it's possible. Thanks for your trouble. By the way, I forgot to mention that the recording starts immediately after the cycle begins, so there are about 30 seconds of water inflow before the mystery noise starts. It cuts off after 60 seconds, but the noise only continues for about 10 seconds more, and the quality of the missing bit is about the same as those you can hear.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 09:09 pm |
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pcworth Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Give this a shot. It called it a "sharing link", so I am hoping that you might get access. The site said the previous file was set at "private", but I couldn't find any other info about making it "unprivate". http://uploadingit.com/browse/pcworth/227659
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 09:11 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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The folder you requested is not available. Either you do not have the permission to view it (try logging in) or it may have been deleted by the owner.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 09:30 pm |
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pcworth Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Thanks to RegUS_PatOff (see below), the file should now be accessible through the previous URL. Last edited on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 10:04 pm by pcworth |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 09:35 pm |
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pcworth Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Also, it occurred to me, if this doesn't work and you could post an email address, I could mail the sound file to you directly. It should play on any Windows computer.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 09:40 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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that worked .. I don't know what the sound is.. but I changed the file from private to public if they know the URL (you could now edit your message and remove username / password) Last edited on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 09:45 pm by RegUS_PatOff ____________________ RegUS_PatOff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAY2LsKVEw my video production: “Easter Seals Walk With Me” (also in HQ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EBiLyYXMiA Upon leaving this Earth "Do you want the Smoking or Non-Smoking section ?" |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29th, 2009 10:00 pm |
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pcworth Chief Apprentice Appliantologist
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Nice work! How did you change the designation from "private"? I couldn't see anywhere to do that. Don't worry, I have now found it! I missed the "Edit" instruction in all the excitement! Out of interest, was the sound quality of the recording satisfactory? Thanks again for your interest. Last edited on Mon Jun 29th, 2009 10:08 pm by pcworth |
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