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| GE Oven Model #J KP86 is not heating up properly but seems to get warm | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2009 06:19 am |
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ccmulder Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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We have a GE Oven and Microwave combo that worked fine until just recently. It makes a clicking sound like its going to turn on and then it doesn't. I turn it off, try again and then it went to 245 and stopped getting hotter (it was set at 350) but it didn't seem like it was at 245--it was warm but not hot. Any ideas?
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| Posted: Tue Jun 9th, 2009 12:01 pm |
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Gas or electric oven?
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20th, 2009 04:19 pm |
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ccmulder Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Sorry been busy--its and electric oven
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| Posted: Mon Jul 20th, 2009 06:58 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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PM'd 31-9098 Mngrm 27-30 in wall ovens.pdf
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| Posted: Sat Jul 25th, 2009 07:34 pm |
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ccmulder Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Any ideas how to trouble shoot this--its not heating at all--neither element
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| Posted: Sat Jul 25th, 2009 08:16 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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Did you check the voltage and connections on the Oven's Terminal Strip and the house Circuit Breakers ? Did you check the Oven's Thermal Cutout Switch as mentioned in the Service Manual ?
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| Posted: Sat Jul 25th, 2009 11:35 pm |
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ccmulder Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Ok--its the thermal sensor that is bad--anyone know where that is? Last edited on Sat Jul 25th, 2009 11:55 pm by ccmulder |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 25th, 2009 11:56 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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ccmulder wrote: Ok--its the thermal sensor that is bad--anyone know where that is? Double Line Brake Relay .. not used on model JKP86 Last edited on Sat Jul 25th, 2009 11:57 pm by RegUS_PatOff ____________________ RegUS_PatOff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAY2LsKVEw my video production: “Easter Seals Walk With Me” (also in HQ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EBiLyYXMiA Upon leaving this Earth "Do you want the Smoking or Non-Smoking section ?" |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 25th, 2009 11:59 pm |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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ccmulder wrote: Ok--its the thermal sensor that is bad--anyone know where that is?How do you know it's bad if you don't know where it is ? Oven Thermal Switch (back wall of Oven) page 35 (PDF page 37) of Service Manual Last edited on Sun Jul 26th, 2009 12:02 am by RegUS_PatOff ____________________ RegUS_PatOff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPAY2LsKVEw my video production: “Easter Seals Walk With Me” (also in HQ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EBiLyYXMiA Upon leaving this Earth "Do you want the Smoking or Non-Smoking section ?" |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2009 02:03 am |
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ccmulder Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Ok--we tested (my brother-in-law did) and we did find a thermostat that was bad--jumped that--still didn't work. So we jumpered the orange and red lines that go into the L2 (on the main board) and it works. So at this point we don't know if its the main board that's bad--what steps can we take to isolate the problem?
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2009 02:07 am |
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ccmulder Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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In other words the DLB relay is not passing power for the L2 circuit--there is no thermal cutout at the back of the oven because by jumping the DLB (on the main board in the microwave), the oven works fine. The diagram schematics are not accurate.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2009 02:16 am |
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RegUS_PatOff Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology
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I don't see an a DLB Relay nor Orange Wire on the JKP86 Schematic on page 51, but page 33 shows the JKP86 uses a DLB Relay. It dosen't show L2 going to the Board. Do you have the full model number from the Oven ?
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2009 02:42 am |
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ccmulder Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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The schematic is not correct--it shows a inline thermal switch and actually L2 loops through relay DLB (red and orange wires). We took out the board--see the picture. When we jump the two wires the oven works fine--leads us to believe maybe the problem is in the DLB relay but my brother-in-law in concerned there may be some other issue. So how do we know it is in fact the board that's the problem? Attachment: Circuit Board.jpg (Downloaded 24 times)
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2009 02:43 am |
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ccmulder Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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The full model No. is JKP86SOH6SS
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2009 02:53 am |
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ccmulder Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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Two wires go into TB2 and TB3--you will note the relay is labeled "DLB" -- when we jump those two wires, the oven words. Now if I knew the board was the problem, I could just order it but at $100 or so I don't want to order that unless I am sure that's the problem. My brother-in-law wants to know what controls the DLB relay--doesn't show on the schematic. Attachment: cbcloseup2.jpg (Downloaded 24 times)
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2009 02:56 am |
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RegUS_PatOff wrote: ... Do you have the full model number from the Oven ?
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2009 02:57 am |
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ccmulder Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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ccmulder wrote: The full model No. is JKP86SOH6SS BTW--the closest model number I could find to that on the Internet is JKP86SH6SS (missing the "O")
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2009 03:00 am |
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ccmulder Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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RegUS_PatOff wrote: RegUS_PatOff wrote:... Do you have the full model number from the Oven ? I found the model number on the inside of the microwave (its an oven/microwave combo). There is no other model number I could find on the oven itself. Is there another model number for the oven? I believe the model number inside the MW is for the full combo, isn't it? If not, where is the model number on the oven located?
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2009 03:19 am |
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ccmulder Senior Apprentice Appliantologist
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BTW--the part number for that oven control is WB27T10500. If I was sure that was it, I'd just order it.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2009 05:31 am |
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kdog Fellow, Academy of Sublime Masters of Appliantology 
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ccmulder wrote: --there is no thermal cutout at the back of the oven
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