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Posted: Fri Dec 18th, 2009 05:28 pm

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new thermo was the solution. Just soldered in the new part. Worked like a champ. Cost me all of about $9.

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Posted: Fri Dec 18th, 2009 05:44 pm

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OK, the defrost thermostat is located on top of the coils, which is what I replaced. Where do I locate the thermostat you replaced (or is it the same one)?

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Posted: Fri Dec 18th, 2009 05:57 pm

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It's the same one. The little round guy with two wires coming out of it. Take all the shelves out and defrost the freezer side with a hairdryer and some rags to catch the water. Take the back wall panel off the freezer and the thermostat is inside there. Unclip it, cut the wires, solder in new one, making sure to use heat shrink tubing over the new wire connections. Fire it back up.

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alexeinspruch wrote:
new thermo was the solution. Just soldered in the new part.
Worked like a champ. Cost me all of about $9.[/quote

Wow! Soldered in the thermostat.....impressive....an over achiever

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Posted: Tue Dec 22nd, 2009 02:37 pm

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OK. This is the procedure I have gone through in the past. If I use the original thermostat, the fridge functions great, but never triggers over to defrost mode. If I use the newer one, it is the opposite; the fridge is constantly in defrost mode and the element is always hot to the touch and the fridge stays warm. I am starting to think I have two bad thermostats. These are some no name replacements (Rosan mbre061) which are all they have here and run about $4 a piece. Perhaps the next best bet is to grab a third one to see the results?

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The Defrost Thermostat doesn't trigger the Defrost Cycle,

that's the job of the Defrost Timer.

Defrost Thermostat L55-20F should be closed 'till it reaches 55F

The Defrost Timer enables the Defrost Heater (and shuts off the Compressor)
for up to 25 minutes (depending on the Defrost Thernmsostat) about every 8 hours

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Posted: Tue Dec 22nd, 2009 05:18 pm

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I can turn the timer to the defrost cycle and it does go into the cycle, however the heater is either already on and stays that way or off and stays in that mode, depending on the thermostat in place. Should I be looking at replacing the timer instead?

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Posted: Tue Dec 22nd, 2009 05:27 pm

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If the element is constantly staying warm with the new T stat and not with the old one then either you have something wired way wrong and is bypassing the T stat all together, or your timer is sticking in defrost and the new T stat is stuck closed. As "Reg." Said the timer controls when unit goes into defrost the T stat only regulates the amount of time that the heater stays on.....which in most cases is 30 min. Or less.

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I replaced the timer and continue to have the same issue. Any ideas as to what I should look at now or any tests I can run to see if where the failure point might be?

Thanks for the help!

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Posted: Sat Jan 2nd, 2010 03:58 pm

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Unplug your 1 of your heater wires and read from the heater to ground. Is the heater shorted?

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smoe wrote: I replaced the timer and continue to have the same issue....

Is this one of those "universal" Defrost Timers that you have to configure the wires ?

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Posted: Sat Jan 2nd, 2010 04:29 pm

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The timer they supplied me with was the same one that was with the fridge, though it was most likely replaced previously from one of the several local techs that tried to fix it. It is an Avaly VA-1401AD0 defrost timer, 6 hours 21 minutes. There are 4 connectors that I wired according to the schematic.

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Posted: Sat Jan 2nd, 2010 04:35 pm

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Never heard of that I would go with the MFG. Part. The original is an 8 hr. 30 min. Timer....no guessing on the wiring...repairclinic part # 12762

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smoe wrote: ... Avaly VA-1401AD0 defrost timer, 6 hours 21 minutes...

may be OK,

Does it only have (4) connections, or is there also a Black Jumper Wire

may have been mis-wired by previous user ..

what part number did you order ?

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I live in Mexico south of Cancun, so I am limited on the parts I can get. The repairmen that worked on it a few months back replaced the original thermostat and timer with the 'equivalent' parts here, though since that time, it has never worked properly. I have attached an image of the timer. Also, the thermostat that they used for replacement is a L65-32F. Could this combination of third party parts be the issue?

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if it were wired correctly it should have at least worked, I dont like the way that the contacts on that timer look if its only a couple of months old... You mentioned that you wired per schematic....the timer harness didn"t have a molded plug on the end of it? individual wires?

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I agree with above statement, those contacts look terrible man. Fedex delivers ANYWHERE. Get an OE part.

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