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 Posted: Fri Feb 27th, 2009 03:47 pm
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I wanted to add one other thing. If your unit is clogged usually the filter drier, I would replace that first. A knowledge able repairman can tap into the system to see if its a clogg. Usually in a vacuum. Usually charge $150 but thats arkansas prices. wish i could get that price for repair mine is usually $700. to replace compressor but ive never replaced an evaporater. I didnt mean to tell you to add freon to a clogged unit if it is and freak out all my appliance brethren.



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What happened to using common sense. NEVER, NEVER use CO2 in a system as it contains moisture .
Second of all the proper way of sweeping the system is to
1. Evacuate to 500 Microns form both "High Side" and "Low Side"
2. Break vacuum with known refrigerant till 5# on pressure gauge and then add nitrogen until standing pressure reaches recommended test pressure. At this time you should check for leaks with a reliable leak detector.
3. Repair any leak found, and replace with the recommended drier. Although they (FSP) makes a drier with a dye pellet, I am personally against using this because only two things should be in a refrigeration system. Refrigerant and Oil.
4. Evacuate again to 500 Microns, break with nitrogen
5. Evacuate to 500 microns and charge unit with the proper amount of refrigerant
If anyone wants to argue, this is the method described in the EPA guide for 608 certification. Remember  Reading Is Fundamental.



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I am pleasantly surprised to have received addition replies.  Thanks.  My built-in is getting worse.  E.g. today (Friday, 2/27) I left home at 7:30AM with freezer temp (as measured by a wireless thermometer inside) at 12.2.  Upon return at 4:43PM the freezer temp was at 26.8, but had been as low as 5.9F in my absence.  No, it had not gone through a defrost cycle (defrost timer is 10-hour timer).  Judging from the position of the defrost timer the compressor most likely had been running the whole time.  As usual, switching the unit off for a few minutes and turning it back on got it cooling again.

So far I have not signed up to have anything done with my built-in.  But, today I asked the tech who came to my home last week (and did not charge for his visit), to give me a quote on the sealed system rebuild and verify that the sealed system parts are covered by Kitchenaid.  He seems uncomfortable doing the sealed system work only because it would cost me so much.   An office person at his company said he and one other tech do all their sealed system work.  The company services quite a large area, at least from Modesto to San Jose CA

Tomorrow I have an appointment with the national company that gets such poor ratings in my area.  Assuming that tech says sealed system, I will ask about just charging the unit, or replacing the filter/drier and charging, or finding and fixing a leak.  I certainly don't feel competent suggesting to a tech how the charging should be done. 

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tomj wrote: I am pleasantly surprised to have received addition replies.  Thanks.  My built-in is getting worse.  E.g. today (Friday, 2/27) I left home at 7:30AM with freezer temp (as measured by a wireless thermometer inside) at 12.2.  Upon return at 4:43PM the freezer temp was at 26.8, but had been as low as 5.9F in my absence.  No, it had not gone through a defrost cycle (defrost timer is 10-hour timer).  Judging from the position of the defrost timer the compressor most likely had been running the whole time.  As usual, switching the unit off for a few minutes and turning it back on got it cooling again.

So far I have not signed up to have anything done with my built-in.  But, today I asked the tech who came to my home last week (and did not charge for his visit), to give me a quote on the sealed system rebuild and verify that the sealed system parts are covered by Kitchenaid.  He seems uncomfortable doing the sealed system work only because it would cost me so much.   An office person at his company said he and one other tech do all their sealed system work.  The company services quite a large area, at least from Modesto to San Jose CA

Tomorrow I have an appointment with the national company that gets such poor ratings in my area.  Assuming that tech says sealed system, I will ask about just charging the unit, or replacing the filter/drier and charging, or finding and fixing a leak.  I certainly don't feel competent suggesting to a tech how the charging should be done. 
You are not telling him how to do his job, merely suggesting he follow proper procedure.
If you like you can talk to me about this repair (http://www.hvacbob.com), also I still have a few people I know with the parent company "Whirlpool"as I am working with them to establish an Appliance Repair Program at the local Vo-Tech High School.



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