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I have a Kenmore 18 cu ft refrigerator that I would guess is around 10 years old (I can't remember exactly how old).  Recently, I notice water on the floor in front of and underneath the refrigerator.  I traced the water source to the inside of the refrigerator.  There is a shallow well on the bottom of the inside (under the crisper drawers).  That well now fills up until it overflows.  I thought it might have been the humidity this summer but I am sure we've had humid days and humid summers in the past ten years. 

Does anyone know why my refrigerator is now getting filled up with water?  We have to use a sponge to soak up the water every so often before it spills.  This is the first time we've noticed this condition since we've had this refrigerator.

I did not include the model number of the refrigerator since I figured this issue may not be model specific.

Any thoughts?

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your drain from the freezer is clogged ...... defrost water has to go somewhere , when this is working right its down a drain line to a pan under the fridge ...... some KEN-POOLS   have a little funnel behind the controls in the fridge that just unplugs to clean it out  ....... send mod # that will make it easy to see just what you have

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Hi, I'm new to this and new to posting, so please have some patience.I have the same problem with my 1998 Kenmore Coldspot model 106.77992791. I cannot find anyplace in the manual on how to fix this problem. If you could help it would be great!!! thanks, Barb

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You won't find anything in the manual about that.

You need to take the back panel off inside the freezer section and look underneath the evaporator coil.  There's a little hole there that the water is supposed to drain down into a drip pan on the bottom of the unit.  It is probably frozen over and therefore not allowing the water to drain.  Thaw it out thoroughly with a hair dryer and then with some very hot water (I usually use the microwave).  You'll hear a gurgle when it is completely thawed and the water will all go down the tube. 

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Also, look around in the immediate area and look for any spilt items...you could have the dreaded P.I.D. condition.........Pea In the Drain.... Do as  ROBBYRIG suggests to clear the tube  and look for spilt peas, corn, pieces of bread that will make it a bit tougher to remove the clog .  DO not just take a long pointy object to clean/clear the drain tube.  you could poke a hole in the rubber drain tube and then you will have defrost water going down the inner walls of the refer...  That is why we need the model numbers , to help us tell you if the drain tube  makes tight turns in the walls....... keep us posted....                     P.S. after clearing the drain tube, I add one CAP full of bleach   to the hot water to pour down the drain into the pan to kill  the gookus acummulus that is down there....

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certified tech group 51 wrote:  P.S. after clearing the drain tube, I add one CAP full of bleach   to the hot water to pour down the drain into the pan to kill  the gookus acummulus that is down there....
That's a great tip.  I'm going to add that to my bag 'o tricks.  Thanks CTG51.

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Hi Cactus Bob (and everyone else).

The model number of my Kenmore is 25361462100 and the Manufactured date is 11-01.

Follow-up question.  Assuming the drain is indeed clogged on my fridge, if the drain "drains" into a drip pan at the bottom of the fridge, how come that drip pan does not fill up and spill/overflow anyway?

Just curious.

Thanks!
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heat from the refrigeration equipment evaporates the water in the pan



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As previously stated, my 18 cu ft. Kenmore's model number is 25361462100.

Can anyone give me a more model specific area where I can find the drain?  ROBBYRIG responded generically to "take the back panel off inside the freezer section and look underneath the evaporator coil.  There's a little hole there that the water is supposed to drain down into a drip pan on the bottom of the unit. "

I don't know if this also applies to my model.  Do I have to defrost the fridge first or can I do this while it is still cold?  Does anyone know where I can find a drawing of where I can find the drain hole.  Does this mean that the water comes from the freezer section and not from the refrigerator section? 

Anyone else know of a site where someone might have taken pictures (or even a Youtube video) of someone clearing out a clogged Fridge drain.

Thanks for all of the responses and advice.

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Simple my friend.  The back panel of the freezer section has a few quarter inch screws holding it in place.  Once you get that panel off, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.  It's much easier to thaw if you unplug the unit.  Once you get all of the ice shelf's removed then attack the center of the tray and you'll find your drain hole.  Once you get that fairly cleared out, then hit it with water heated from the microwave until you hear the tell-tale gurgle indicating that you've cleared it all out.

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hi, ok, I cleared out all the ice, found the drain hole.Used the blow dryer to get rid of the ice. Does it take a while for this %&*#*$%  thing to thaw out? I tried using hot water but it's still just sitting there.( laughing at me, I know it is!!!) I looked to see if there was anyplace else that I might be able to get to, someone had mentioned a funnel. I unscrewed the control covering on the fridge ceiling, but didn't see anything there that might help. Any more suggestions? or just give it some time?  They did not make this drain hole an easy place to get to or work with.thanks 

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It worked, it worked!!!!!!! I am so thankful to all of you who helped me...I have been fighting this fridge for I know at least 4 months with this!!!! And yes!! I did as suggested and ran a bit of bleach through the line!!! Now, hopefully the problem has gone away!! If not, I know where I can get some answers!!! Thank you all very much!!! Barb

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I finally took off the back panel of my Kenmore freezer. I saw two holes. One is the freezer drain below the evaporator. The other is a hole between the freezer and the fridge (to let freezer air go down to the refrigerator side).  I could not see the bottom of the drain because the evaporator was above it and I could not move it out of the way.  I tried to use a small mirror to see the bottom but still couldn't. 

I heated water in my coffee maker (without the coffee grounds). I poured 2 cups of hot water (from a plastic plant watering can with a long thin spout) and then another 4 cups.  I did not hear the tell tale gurgle of the drain opening up. 

I stuck a long zip tie in the drain to see how far down it went. It only went down approx. 4 inches.  I don't know if that is the ice block or just a 90 degree bend on the drain.  Since the six cups of hot water (plus some warm water from the sink earlier) did not back up, I assume the drain is clear (but can't be sure).

Is there anything else I can do to insure that the Freezer drain is clear?

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These units usually don't plug up where you are looking, unless you have a defrost problem which plugs all drains and vents with ice.

Notice how big that opening is out of the freezer???  It goes straight down into the drain cup that is built into the back part of the control consule.

The control consule can be removed by taking the 4 screws, (2 in front, 2 in back), out and dropping it down and unplugging the plug, then you will see the place where the water really drains too and also make sure the smaller 3/8" outlet tube isn't plugged with gookus.

These units have another problem that will cause water to accumulate under the crisper drawers and can be easily fixed with a little permagum or a longer defrost drain funnel.

The original service bulletin fix was to put a strip of permagum across the divider wall between the drain cup and styrofoam air diffuser in the control panel which works fine then they came out with this service bulletin and part to fix the problem, (I couldn't find the original bulletin that explained the permagum fix better and with pictures).


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Ok, don't know why I couldn't find the other bulletin, it was referenced right in the first one I gave you.  Here's the permagum fix I was looking for.


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Can you elaborate on which is the controle console?  That isn't the back panel that I just removed to get access to the evaporator is it?  I did remove 4 screws to remove the back panel, drop it down and unplug it in order to remove the back panel out of the way. 

Also, when you say to make sure that the smaller 3/8" outlet tube isn't plugged, I don't know where the outlet tube is located.  Can you elaborate on this too?

Finally, although there are two solutions offered here, one to replace the old ferrule (which I guess is the rectangular drain cup), the other is the permagum (not sure where to buy this), would either one work or do I have to do both?

The instructions you attached says to "tip the evaporator up".  I tried earlier to move the evaporator but didn't try too hard for fear of breaking something.  It also said to remove the aluminum drain trough.  I am not sure how to do that since aluminum trough goes from the back to the bottom of the evaporator.  Do I just lift the bottom of the trough so that I could get at the old ferrule to remove it and replace with the new one?  Is the new ferrule deeper than the old one? 

Sorry for all the questions. If I decide to do this, I will have to buy the ferrule from my local appliance parts store and everything there is non-returnable.

Thanks again for all of your instructions and pictures.

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I would just use the permagum fix, it has always worked fine for me and you won't risk accidently bending and crimping off the aluminum evaporator tubes trying to get the drain though out, (I only put a strip of permagum across the divider between the drain cup and air diffuser, not all the way around the stryofoam insert).

The control consule is on the roof of the refrigerator, (you know, the part in the center with the CONTROLS on it!!!!).  Once you remove the 4 screws from that and drop down a little in front and slide forward and unplug molex connector, and you will have the complete consule out to do the permagum fix as in fig#2 in the second post with pictures.

The ferrule is about 1/8" to 1/4" longer and actually extends down into the drain cup in the control consule so that water doesn't wick over and into the air diffuser channel and into the refrig.

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It took a month but I finally got around to replacing the old ferrule with the new one. It doesn't seem that much larger but since you say this should work, I am going with it.  Thanks for all of the advice. I will let you know in another month if my refrigerator stays dry.  I've included pictures of the old and new ferrule side by side so people can see the difference in size.

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That 1/4" longer is all it takes.  If you had looked at the bottom with the old one where it comes down into the refrig section you would have noticed it didn't stick down below the roof line at all, the new one will and it won't let the water wick over into the airdiffuser section.

I've never bothered replacing the ferrule, just used the permagum fix and never have had a problem with them afterwards.



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Thanks Willie.

I tried to find a place that sold permagum locally but couldn't.  I even checked local HVAC companies and big box hardware stores but nothing.  When I checked online like Grainger, they sell for about about $14.  The ferrule was available at my local parts store (1 day special order) for less than $5 so I went with that. 

The only thing I was concerned about was moving the evaporator out of the way to put in the new ferrule and not kink the copper lines.

Thanks again for all of your responses and insight!

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