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Rocket Appliance
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Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 21:30 |
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Hello!! This is my first post, so please excuse me if I go about this wrong...lol.. A friend called this morning in a panic! Its his turn to make dinner for the inlaws tonight! Ha Ha,.. I am just a wee grasshopper with only a few years of fixing appliances so I am still very new to all this... I searched the posts and found a similiar problem saying it would be the burner control what do you think guys?
Is there a way I can get him up an running tonight while he waits for the correct part to come in?
I also read that someone unplugged the burner control and tried it that way but it threw some codes (f-7) and STILL heated up?.. and that maybe meant that the surface element board was at fault...would it be a logical idea to start by unplugging the burner control board and if it still heats up it would be the surface element board?
Thanks for reading my long winded post!
Thanks again and Happy New Year!
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 00:03 |
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| your probably gonna have to post a wiring diagram for this stove because we cant look up Canadian models.....chances of getting it going tonight is slim to none.
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Rocket Appliance
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 00:19 |
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Thanks for the reply! I told him that he probably wont have it working, because if I unplug anything it will flash error code(s) and be unusable... I will see if I can get the wiring diagram scanned (dont have a scanner) and post it...
Thanks again!
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BrntToast
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 00:29 |
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well us canadians cant look up the kenmore either
you say flash codes, am i to assume the surface units have a digital readout?
if its a frigidaire you might be able to unplug a wire from the element(i dont think the user interface board tests elements)
top is hinged, 2 screws underneath and it lifts on its hinges(its live even with switches turned off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
tell them to tape it off well
btw if it is a friggy with digital display its more likely a bad relay board than the potentiometer(switch)
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BrntToast
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 00:35 |
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this is sears canada
We found no matches for "appliance parts". Below are the results for "parts".
$99.99
have i mentioned lately i HATE sears?
Last edited on Sat Dec 29th, 2007 00:36 by BrntToast
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 00:52 |
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| I found a link on another site that shows a unit with a model # of 970.440834 (made by Frigidaire) it appears to be a slide in unit...there are no knobs or rheostats to control the burners everything is pushbutton like an oven...I don't know if his looks like this or not but I have never personally worked on one of these...
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BrntToast
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 00:54 |
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well post link poobah
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BrntToast
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 00:56 |
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sears gets the manufacturers to do some silly things at times 
again.... i hate sears!!!!
well except their tool warranty 
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 00:56 |
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| give me a minute to find it again
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 02:03 |
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sorry it took so long...I forgot what I did earlier to get it...
here is the link
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 02:24 |
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| If this is the unit in question and I'm reading this diagram right...you should be able to unhook the burner in question and the others still work...it might code the one but it looks to be independent of the others...unless one code locks out the entire board.... Last edited on Sat Dec 29th, 2007 02:25 by Poobah
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BrntToast
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 02:51 |
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yup its the friggy, you might get away with unplugging the burner, (tape off each wire seperate)... but you might get the dreaded f9 code (something is broken) if so they are SOL
tell us which burner stays on and now that the grand poobah has pasted wiring diagram (BTW poobah where you find this stuff?) we can tell you how to test for a stuck relay on the board(cause i'm thinkin thats your prob)
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Rocket Appliance
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 08:33 |
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Man that poohbah knows how to find a schematic!!! Hey I did what you guys suggested and unhooked the wires that feed the left side of the cooktop..and well it WORKED!!! My buddy was sooo happy!!!!!
So Brnt Toast...you said you could show me how to test the relays.....would it be easier to replace the relay or the power control board (part # 97a on page 2 of the pdf link from poohbah)
Thanks again guys you really helped me out and boosted my confidence!!!
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BrntToast
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Posted: Sun Dec 30th, 2007 09:03 |
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#97 on page 4 is the relay board
its on the back of the unit, to test just read the board, all the relays should be labeled RF etc find the relay for the element that doesn't turn off, unplug one wire and test the relay for continuity, you will find the relay is closed even with the oven powered off, if so you need a relay board
now if this truely is a buddy and your solder skills are good, some models have an extra unused relay, you can take the unused one off the board and replace the stuck one..... gotta be good with the iron
but hey the way i look at this one is, even if relay change doesn't work, they still need a board anyways, no loss to the customer..... just wait till after the holidays to attempt it incase anything goes really wrong
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Rocket Appliance
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Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 08:22 |
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BrntToast,...you were right on the money on this one as usual !!!! I just got the board today and finished the job for my buddy,...Works great! no sign of burn of the relay but I tested for continuity once I had it out and sure enough it was stuck closed!
Thanks again all! you guys ROCK!!!!!
Rocket.
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BrntToast
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Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 09:02 |
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the friggys are my specialty
*brnt struts*
haw
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BrntToast
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Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 09:09 |
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want to help brnt.... to hell with buyin me beer, copy the posts an email them to frigidaire, i want the damn warranty contract for my city!!!
maybe if they get enough they will realise i could do their tech support and the calls
just a thought
mind you i'ts 3 am and i'm drunk as a skunk(dont paste this part)
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